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Old 02-07-2019, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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5 reasons why autonomous cars aren't coming anytime soon
https://www.clickondetroit.com/autom...-anytime-soon_
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:47 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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5 reasons why autonomous cars aren't coming anytime soon
https://www.clickondetroit.com/autom...-anytime-soon_
Just confirms, again, what many have been saying. Of course, the article is going to be hooted at by the regulars here.
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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I wont be? i saw one last weekend.
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Old 02-07-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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When the first one hits something/someone, watch the scumbag lawyers have a field day.
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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Had the internet been around at the time, Im sure the same kinds of arguments would have been debated when society transitioned from horse and buggy to the motorized car, Im sure there were plenty of people that thought motorized cars were just too dangerous, as well as people who fully supported the transition.


Oddly enough though, considering how many 100s of 1000s of lives motorized cars have taken or harmed in some way, majority of people still consider them to be beneficial, no one calling to go back to horse and buggy either!
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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Had the internet been around at the time, Im sure the same kinds of arguments would have been debated when society transitioned from horse and buggy to the motorized car, Im sure there were plenty of people that thought motorized cars were just too dangerous, as well as people who fully supported the transition.


Oddly enough though, considering how many 100s of 1000s of lives motorized cars have taken or harmed in some way, majority of people still consider them to be beneficial, no one calling to go back to horse and buggy either!
Poor analogy. In both the horse and car there was a person in control as the ultimate authority.

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Because I told you to.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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5 reasons why autonomous cars aren't coming anytime soon
https://www.clickondetroit.com/autom...-anytime-soon_
But that's not what Mary told us ! Zero crashes, Zero emissions, Zero congestion. And they are restructuring the company to bank on EV and Autonomous...to the tune of 14k employees.
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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When cars, trucks, and semi trucks are inches or even a few feet away on a highway going 75 MPH or more, what can go wrong?
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I wont be? i saw one last weekend.
I saw so many of them in the last week I didn't even count. The only reason it stands out is there were five of them in close succession, as in in about 10 seconds.

That doesn't mean you're going to be able to go down to a dealership and buy one next year which is a separate thing. They're still working on the making it work part and then after that they need to be made affordable. But not going to see them any time soon? Uh, no. I've been seeing them for several years now pretty regularly.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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None of this is much new; I've been saying several of these things for quite a while. (Mostly that AV operation on "Disneyland" streets is one thing; operation on more rural roads without lines, curb lines or markers, and with irregular curves and intersections, etc. pose problems that have choked the vehicles in city conditions.)

But there's another issue that's only been touched on - I just saw a related piece about it and it made me think.

Repairing AVs is going to be completely beyond 95% of existing service options, even limiting that to dealerships and factory-trained shops, much less driveway repairs. Yes, yes, I know, every slight technical advance in automotive design has sparked the same comment, but this time really is different. I've been working on cars since the most sophisticated thing in them was an AM radio, and things like FI, engine computers, airbags, ABS and the endlessly multiplying controllers have each been said to put the amateur/general mechanic out of business. To make it short, every one of those systems is just an extension of older tech, and thus completely within the grasp of any experienced mechanic if he or she chooses... and repair on most of those systems consists of testing and replacing some black boxes.

But AVs use a sensor array, supercomputer and control linkages that are so state of the art in their own fields that those experts still can't get them right. Repair of an AV will involve tools, techniques and knowledge that are in no way just one more ASE badge away.

And, frankly, do you want YOUR neighbor "fixing" his AV's wonky forward sensors before his morning commute?
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