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Old Yesterday, 01:48 AM
 
Location: San Diego A.K.A "D.A.Y.G.O City"
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After driving cars for a long time, and currently owning classic ones, I find that IMO over the years that American (GM,Ford,Dodge/Chrysler) products bodies including older BMW’s and Benzes have a much more sturdy feel and solidarity to their vehicles vs say a Toyota or Honda product.

Do many of you find this to be the case, or no? I just feel like the doors, trunks and hoods feel more solid on a Ford or GM product than a Toyota. Why is this? In Japan their roads are perfect and smooth as glass with no potholes to speak of so the importance of road noise and vibrations from bad asphalt doesn’t matter to them very much because I remember most older Honda’s have a ton of road noise and ride like crap with overly stiff suspension dynamics while a Toyo Camry is slightly quieter, but doesn’t feel all that solid and sturdy compared to say a Ford Fusion and a Chevy Malibu.

What are the reasons behind this? Most old Mercedes feel very solid and bank vault like, but the new ones don’t.
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Old Yesterday, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Haven't found build quality to ever top Lexus, especially the older ones.
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Old Yesterday, 03:19 AM
 
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I agree to an extent. My good friend has a Lexus and when you close the door you hear a definite cheap sound. I’m sure the Lexus IS built well but It would be annoying for me. The problem with the Japanese cars is the seats. I’m speaking of Toyota mainly. I have been in a Prius for a couple hours and the seats are horrible. The Avalon is a little better but they don’t feel like the padding is there.
American cars have come a long way. They still unfortunately don’t seem as reliable after the warranty is up. German cars are over engineered for most American mechanics. Quite expensive to keep up with time.
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Old Yesterday, 04:54 AM
 
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American is the best feeling and German is the worst and the Japanese are in the middle I never drove a Korean car but i do not expect much due to their low cost
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Old Yesterday, 05:55 AM
 
Location: NH
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I have driven many different cars over the years and German cars in my opinion feel the most solid. They are tanks and have a heavier feel than most others which is especially noticeable when closing the door. Next in line would be American and then Japanese in last place. I currently have a Toyota and though it is a great vehicle, it feels cheap just based on the weight and the sound of the door when closing it.
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Old Yesterday, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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To experience that "solid" feeling, i.e. a low resonance frequency, visit a car show and shut the doors on many models.

I'll expect you'll find what you want on a few premium makes, e.g.Lexus LS, Mercedes S class or a top end Jaguar.
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Old Yesterday, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Pretty much all manufacturers make a solid unibody structure nowadays.
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Old Yesterday, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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The Flinstsones do

Rock solid in fact.

They are all essentially the same. If one company comes up with something really solid that sells well, the other companies copy it.

But they are trying to move away from "solid" and into lightweight. The goal is to make efficient vehicles not building bricks. So no one is trying to make "solid" feeling vehicles. Check out some of the plastic or composite cars not very solid feeling at all but many are great cars. Aluminum pickups? Not solid feeling, still mayby pretty tough.
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Old Yesterday, 08:44 AM
 
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Older W126 S classes are the "thud" winner. Today I'd say a Rolls Royce would be in the lead.
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Old Yesterday, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Older American cars have a floating boat feeling as you drive. Hondas have a solid feel as you drive.
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