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Old Yesterday, 01:32 PM
 
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I'm still chuckling from the assertion on the first page that we could just add a bottle of water into the tank and go zipping along for 25k miles.



The only current fuel source that would be small enough to produce enough heat to create steam from a small amount of water for a passenger vehicle and to be able to do it over and over again to be efficient, would be nuclear fission of some kind, and frankly, I don't want the average Joe bombing around (Get it? See what I did there?) in a mobile nuclear device when most people can't even be bothered to keep the air in their tires at the proper level.

 
Old Yesterday, 02:13 PM
 
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This thread is dumb.

The most efficient form of personal car transportation is electric. Like, over 90,99% efficient. And can come from renewable resources.

So can fool cells, but they end up being like 30% efficient.
 
Old Yesterday, 02:18 PM
 
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This thread is dumb.

The most efficient form of personal car transportation is electric. Like, over 90,99% efficient. And can come from renewable resources.

So can fool cells, but they end up being like 30% efficient.
Well, it's certainly not 90.99% efficient if you consider the losses in generating electricity, transmitting it to the charging point, and charging the vehicle.
 
Old Yesterday, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Originally Posted by ZeApelido View Post
This thread is dumb.

The most efficient form of personal car transportation is electric. Like, over 90,99% efficient. And can come from renewable resources.

So can fool cells, but they end up being like 30% efficient.
It is not meant to be the opposite of hypothetical, Mod cut.

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Old Yesterday, 03:47 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Imagine how much rambling we could have avoided at least if we didn't have petrol-powered cars today and would have found a way to get hi tech steam cars


Is a win win, no electricity or petrol required

Today all you would need is to pour in a bottle of water into the tank/engine every 25,000 miles

I mean this is all hypothetical so try not to get all fuzzy over it, but just think how much tree huggers and environmentalists could have been satisfied



Of course there will still be complaints from other sectors, but at least our cars could have been safe.


No need to worry about emissions and no need to worry mining for those batteries
Doncha think we ought to talk about some way to heat the water?

I mean, basically you have described a nuclear power plant.
 
Old Yesterday, 04:15 PM
 
Location: in the soup
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A nuclear camaro...

That would be so much America
 
Old Yesterday, 05:35 PM
 
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Imagine how much rambling we could have avoided at least if we didn't have petrol-powered cars today and would have found a way to get hi tech steam cars


Is a win win, no electricity or petrol required

Today all you would need is to pour in a bottle of water into the tank/engine every 25,000 miles

I mean this is all hypothetical so try not to get all fuzzy over it, but just think how much tree huggers and environmentalists could have been satisfied



Of course there will still be complaints from other sectors, but at least our cars could have been safe.


No need to worry about emissions and no need to worry mining for those batteries

even today there are a lot of issues with steam power. for instance, you cant just jump into your steam powered car start it up and drive off in 30 seconds. you need at least 5 minutes to get steam up to pressure and temperature.


and while you can use anything that burns to heat up the boiler, the fuel efficiency of a steam engine is far less than that of the average internal combustion engine, of the 50s and 60s.


the range of a steam engine isnt that great either, you will be filling up with water about every 25-30 miles, even with steam engines that recycle the water since there is still a loss of water over time.


and then you still have the issues of the boilers overheating and doing silly little things like blowing up.


now if you could get a steam powered car to have a 250 mile range, you would have something here, even with the five minute warm up time.
 
Old Yesterday, 06:28 PM
 
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They wouldn't be slower. Jay Lenos one cylinder stanley steamer touring car with direct(no transmission) drive does 120mph flat out.
My Honda Accord can approach 160?
 
Old Yesterday, 10:44 PM
 
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My Honda Accord can approach 160?
Are you sure about that? Most modern cars are limited to 130mph via software. It use to be 118mph, but I guess they relaxed a little.
 
Old Yesterday, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Tree huggers are control freaks. They're just a subset of the many control freaks out there. Cure one complaint and they'll find something else to complain about.


That aside, how do you plan to heat the water to get it to turn into steam? And since the steam is turned into some type of motion, it needs to be replenished much more frequently than every 25,000 miles. People a whole lot smarter than you have figured out that steam power is not viable for personal or commercial vehicles.
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Conservative = When in doubt, blame liberals

It's all about money,
nobody is going to build a car that doesn't use gasoline = $$$ unless they find a way to make the same amount of money with any other option.

I just stated the obvious. Whatever label you want to hang on treehuggers, the bottom line is they are intolerant of anyone that doesn't agree with them. If they want to drive a Prius, I'm fine with that. But if I want to drive a pickup, they become enraged. If they want to eat veggie or vegan, I'm fine with that. But if I eat meat, they become enraged. If they want to use reusable bags when they go shopping, I'm fine with that. But if I want to use one-time use plastic bags, they become enraged. As a conservative, I live my life and let others live theirs how they want to. Liberals have become utterly intolerant and want to control every aspect of my life. This isn't a blame game, it's a control game.
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