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Old 02-15-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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[quote=Vic Romano;54437740]I'm sure VW tells Porsche how to build their flat six... [/QUOTE

Yes they do they own it they can tell Porsche exactly what to build and they own them.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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Volvos have great power and acceleration, without the turbo, if you don't mind a Volvo.
The new Volvos look really good actually. Im a muscle car guy and I would consider one of those. Especially when Volvo plans on making more all electric vehicles.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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I'm sure VW tells Porsche how to build their flat six... [/QUOTE

Yes they do they own it they can tell Porsche exactly what to build and they own them.
The problem with your argument is that Porsche Automobil Holding SE controls 52.2% of VW and members of the Porsche family are on the board. You actually have who runs the show backwards.

However, each auto group that is controlled by them has their own designers, engineers and other staff and operate as independent companies. They are just all majority owned by a holding company.
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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The problem with your argument is that Porsche Automobil Holding SE controls 52.2% of VW and members of the Porsche family are on the board. You actually have who runs the show backwards.

However, each auto group that is controlled by them has their own designers, engineers and other staff and operate as independent companies. They are just all majority owned by a holding company.
You got your information wrong my Nephew works for VW the corporation not a dealer he knows what VW owns.

Volkswagen swallows Porsche

https://www.theguardian.com/business...n-buys-porsche
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA (Metro Seattle)
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Porsche does a lot of engineering and testing and actually builds their engines to hold up under the additional stresses of turbocharging. Other manufacturers tend to just take a current production engine and bolt a turbo on. Those are two completely different worlds and you know what is most likely going to happen if you just take an off the shelf engine and slap a turbo on. Porsche is the one who developed the variable turbine turbos that greatly reduce turbo lag by changing the angle of the blades as the load increases/decreases. They do their homework and build a quality product unlike some of the others. Toyota is really good about doing the engineering and testing as well.
We should all drive Porsches, only a little tongue-in-cheek. My best pal is about to trade in his BMW X5, with tons of miles and transmission (and everything else) about to detonate. I've got him eyeballing Cayenne Turbos, which are surprisingly cheap once about 5-6 years old.

But hey, C-D: tellya whut I'm gonna do, I got a deal fer you! Extra-clean BMW X5, best price today only, driven by a little old lady(*) from Pasadena, err, I mean Birmingham EN, on weekends(*)...

(*)Lella Lombardi, 1976 British Grand Prix qualifier!

Anyway, hope you're right about Toyota and testing of forced induction. If my supercharged Tacoma blows up, will be a bad day. It shows no signs of wanting to do so, yet. Superchargers totally work, at the expense of mileage: 10% in my case, vs. previous.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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You got your information wrong my Nephew works for VW the corporation not a dealer he knows what VW owns.

Volkswagen swallows Porsche

https://www.theguardian.com/business...n-buys-porsche
The article in your link is 7 years old and way behind recent changes. Your Nephew obviously doesn't keep up with current events within the company. He is behind a few years: https://europe.autonews.com/article/...che-generation
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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The article in your link is 7 years old and way behind recent changes. Your Nephew obviously doesn't keep up with current events within the company. He is behind a few years: https://europe.autonews.com/article/...che-generation
I’ll have to point that out to him thanks he’s at VW office in auburn hills Michigan, he’s never been to Germany yet but has been to their plant in Tennessee many times. And all i do know is that VW is the largest automaker in the world though the do own allot of car brands.
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Our 2006 PT Cruiser Turbo, now coming up on 70K miles, has been mechanically perfect. No turbo problems at all, ever.
I wish I could say the same about the sensors and computers! The next time a computer fails, the vehicle goes to the salvage yard!
My 1999 Dodge Ram has 410K miles on it, never had a turbo problem.


"I coulda had a V8!" Yep, look for a vehicle with a V8, no turbo. Dodge and Jeep make some nice ones!
Except then you'll have to buy or lease a Dodge or Jeep to waste money on fuel.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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I have an 09 BMW 335i with twin turbos and 131k on the odo and have driven this car across the country twice now without one single problem whatsoever. I can embarrass most so called muscle cars out there without the gas peddle even getting to the 3/4 mark. I take care of my car though and don’t pound it into submission every time I drive it. One thing I really like is that it has an oil temp gage and I monitor that carefully and never get into the higher rpms until it reads 190-200+
In this day and age I wouldn’t be concerned whatsoever about buying a turbo charged vehicle, and if it were me doing the buying it’d be my preference.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: MN
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Oh, oh, I can play that too.

Ariel Atom 4. 0-60 2.8s. 2.0L turbo 4. That's faster than every other car mentioned in this thread, and faster than any NA v6 sold in north american today
The 2019 GT3RS with flat 6 no turbo is faster then prior model which did it in 3.0...so you may be wrong about that. And it's not a glorified go kart with no roof.

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