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Old 02-18-2019, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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If they can't keep the starting MSRP under $20K, it will fail.
Left Hand Utes had a Chevy Tornado on their site for awhile. They must've sold it.

I like 'em. Saw lots of Tornados in Cozumel, Mexico.
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:06 AM
 
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I know early Ridgelines had an issue with being used as a truck. If they were loaded down and then went across uneven surfaces that twisted the unibody slightly, it crinkled the sheet metal between the cab and bed. Even unloaded they would flex if going fast enough. Recent models have minimized this attribute. This article explains it well:

https://jalopnik.com/mid-size-trucks...mes-1785674405
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:37 AM
 
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From what I'm hearing about it, it's scheduled for production, not a concept anymore. Here's what they claim it's going to be. And I'd bet they sell a ton of them. It's sporty, it's small, and should get great gas mileage.
I will guarantee you they do not sell very well in the US market. If they sell 30,000 of them a year it will be a miracle.

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This is true however I think the Ridgeline's issue is largely one of price.

If Hyundai can keep this thing relatively inexpensive and obviously market it as a ute of some sort rather than a truck I think it could sell relatively well.
The problem isn't price. The problem is the vehicle itself. It is a unibody car with a small truck like bed so it sucks at both being a car as well as being a truck. It appeals to a very very small market.

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I know early Ridgelines had an issue with being used as a truck. If they were loaded down and then went across uneven surfaces that twisted the unibody slightly, it crinkled the sheet metal between the cab and bed. Even unloaded they would flex if going fast enough. Recent models have minimized this attribute. This article explains it well:

https://jalopnik.com/mid-size-trucks...mes-1785674405
That is the problem with these small cars with truck beds. There are going to be those guys that get them and try to actually use them as trucks. It is the same type of guys that buy a 1/2 ton truck and try to use them to do the work of a 3/4 ton by overloading them and trying to pull trailers that are heavily loaded. If you actually try to use these little unibody trucks as trucks, it doesn't take much to overload them. They are basically good for going to grab a bag or two of mulch for around the house and hell you can put that in the trunk of a car. The bed is too small to fit sheets of plywood in them and it is too short to haul lumber. They can't pull much of any trailer load safely. I don't see much of any use for them.
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Some of these "trucks" have lower payload/towing capability than the sedans or hatchbacks they compete with. If they are cheap enough they might sell to high school kids.
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Old 02-18-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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To be honest, I have owned several F150's. I seldom use the truck to near it's capabilities/capacities. I haul the occasional fridge, furniture, plywood, bicycle, etc.
A small unibody truck would probably suffice well for the types of hauling I do, but the price is not competitive.
I can invest the same money into an F150 and get the additional advantage of longevity, strength and wide ranging utility.

If these vehicles would be priced 18K to 30K depending upon convenience and creature comfort packages, then they would stand a chance in the market place. I would bet most will be priced in the 30k to 40K range.
You can buy a very nicely equipped full size for that price, and with the advent of smaller turbo motors in the full size, you won't sacrifice much in fuel economy.
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I just haven't seen it where the price is low enough to sway people en masse.

If you're getting 2/3 the car, you should expect to pay 2/3 the price. But a comparable Colorado is $37K to a $43K Silverado.

Arguments about size or gas mileage fall flat.
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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From what I'm hearing about it, it's scheduled for production, not a concept anymore. Here's what they claim it's going to be. And I'd bet they sell a ton of them. It's sporty, it's small, and should get great gas mileage.
Don't forget it is the best looking truck among all the uglies.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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From what I'm hearing about it, it's scheduled for production, not a concept anymore. Here's what they claim it's going to be. And I'd bet they sell a ton of them. It's sporty, it's small, and should get great gas mileage.
I disagree on the "and I'd bet they sell a ton of them" part. I doubt that thing will outsell the Ridgeline.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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I disagree on the "and I'd bet they sell a ton of them" part. I doubt that thing will outsell the Ridgeline.
And for sure it won’t sell more the the best selling vehicle in America the F150.
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:03 PM
 
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From what I'm hearing about it, it's scheduled for production, not a concept anymore. Here's what they claim it's going to be. And I'd bet they sell a ton of them. It's sporty, it's small, and should get great gas mileage.
I would buy this before a ridgeline. I wouldn’t mind a small single cab pick up to go get basic stuff at the hardware store or small items or commute. Anything too big I can get my truck or have it delivered. Most of these unibody “trucks” are designed to be people carriers first and pickups second.
As long as you understand what you are buying I don’t see a issue. It’s no different than the douche who buys a 1/2 ton and proudly brags how he’s doing 3/4 ton work. All the while absolutely killing that 1/2 ton.
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