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Old 04-05-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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Why do people who write about cars for a living have this vendetta against
"hard plastic trim," and a fetish for "soft surfaces" and leather??
Less rattle/scratch prone. But yeah they take it a bit far as if people are constantly caressing their dashboard.
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Glad to hear.

Based on the OP and various feedback, things have significantly changed in the past 6 years.

Toyota RAV4 Review by Consumer Reports - “Pioneering model misses the mark”

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No it doesn't. My wife has a 2013 Rav4 XLE and she loves it. I like driving it too. Plus it has been a solid vehicle. No rattles, leaks, or any other issues. Seats are very comfortable for both of us and we love the interior.
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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I want to read reviews from real people who drive this vehicle every day.
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Old 04-05-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Just about all the reviews that I have seen or read are pretty consistent with their description of the 2019 RAV4 to have a buzzy and somewhat clunky drivetrain in at least some driving conditions, a somewhat cramped interior and pricey for its perceived level of finishes and configurations.

A very good if no longer class leading vehicle.
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Old 04-05-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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Exactly, very consistent with Consumer Reports review:

Toyota RAV4 Review by Consumer Reports - “Pioneering model misses the mark”

Highs - Fuel economy, standard safety features
Lows - Engine noise, ride, fit and finish

“Toyota has long set a high standard for the compact SUV class with each generation of the RAV4 until now.

The list of woes is long. The engine is noisy, limiting irritating snarls with each press of the accelerator. Your shifts could be smoother. The ride is stiff and a little jumpy. The vehicles higher ground clearance in the lower roof make it more difficult to climb into. The rear seat sits low and doesn’t provide adequate thigh support. The interior feels bland, bordering on cheap, making it worse by hard plastic trim. Visibility out of the windshield into the sides it is good, but the thick rear pillars create significant blindspots.”


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Just about all the reviews that I have seen or read are pretty consistent with their description of the 2019 RAV4 to have a buzzy and somewhat clunky drivetrain in at least some driving conditions, a somewhat cramped interior and pricey for its perceived level of finishes and configurations.

A very good if no longer class leading vehicle.
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Old 04-05-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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Harsh over bumps, translated in real world terms typically means less lean in corners and handles better. While a cloud soft ride is nice, excessive leaning in turns and fearing the car will flip in a hard turn or correction at high speeds is not a good feeling.


Now for a noisy engine and clunk 8spd auto, is another issue. To me Direct Injected engines just seem noisier than Port Injected to me so far.
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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The engine and transmission are the same ones used in the Camry. The clunk is largely when coming to a ‘rolling stop’ and then hitting the gas again, I experienced it in a 2018 Camry loaner I had once. I believe Toyota will likely have to issue a software update to remedy it.
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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Things that all in all, I have zero care about.

Seems reaching for criteria to measure, heavily subjective, and for some people, could not care less about.

Engine noise? It is a damn RAV4, not a GX460. Plus, they miss the entire point of Toyota, its dependability, thus will suffer in other areas.

Note, not a Toyota fan, never owed one, but these articles like this just irk me. It is like saying your F-18 suffers in comfort compared to the first class seat in the A380, yea, because that is not its priority nor intent.

Edit; but will admit, I rented a 2014 Ford Edge once, and they were on point with that POS.
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:05 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I’ve never driven anything with a 4cyl that didn’t have a noisy engine, no matter the brand.
Disagree, I've driven a lot of 4 and 6 cylinder and many such as GM inline 6 are noisy and unexceptional power. It's also subjective, you may think the S2000 engine is noisy but that 8000RPM whine is close to a F1 race car.
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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It's Consumer Reports. Who relies on them anymore?
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