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Old 05-21-2008, 02:14 PM
 
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If I drove an M-1 Battle tank as a commuter vehicle, I would survive a wreck with just about anything. They would be sweeping the highway clean of giant, crushed, destroyed SUV's in my path. This argument that size and bulk means safety is what got us into this stupid position of America having a car and truck fleet totally out of whack with the high costs of fuel.

Many Americans will be getting rid of the giant Detroit Iron parked in their driveways. It is simply too expensive to operate these things. The pain will be great. Most of us can look in the mirror to see who is at fault here...
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:15 PM
 
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If I drove an M-1 Battle tank as a commuter vehicle, I would survive a wreck with just about anything. They would be sweeping the highway clean of giant, crushed, destroyed SUV's in my path. This argument that size and bulk means safety is what got us into this stupid position of America having a car and truck fleet totally out of whack with the high costs of fuel.

Many Americans will be getting rid of the giant Detroit Iron parked in their driveways. It is simply too expensive to operate these things. The pain will be great. Most of us can look in the mirror to see who is at fault here...
I agree but I just want to survive until we can get rid of these monsters.

I love nothing more than to pull up to a long stop light with a Monster 4X4 Diesel Pickup .. with nothing in the bed .. idling with his 4 inch diameter tail pipe pointed at my side drivers window that is open for a little fresh air.
Sometimes when I look over in disgust choking and coughing I notice the driver smoking a Cigar as he waits for the light to change.

What a great Country.

Silverfox
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:09 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Maybe for safety we should put in an extra lane just for small cars under a certain size & weight! Like a bike path!!
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Must be why I saw a TV ad for FreeCreditReport.com | Free Credit Report and Credit Score Online by Experian where they purchase a used Metro and are singing in it.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:36 AM
 
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Maybe when the price of gas and diesel get to the $10 range there will be a much larger % of small cars on the road and it won't be such a dangerous mismatch to buy a smaller vehicle.
I hear you. I'll drive a smaller car (as long as I can still fit in it comfortably) when everyone else drives a smaller car. In Great Britain, lots of people have small cars... a small car vs. small car accident isn't anywhere near as dangerous to drivers of small cars as is an accident with a small car vs. a large car.

Of course, I have also been riding my bike a lot... talk about unsafe...
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:41 AM
 
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If I drove an M-1 Battle tank as a commuter vehicle, I would survive a wreck with just about anything. They would be sweeping the highway clean of giant, crushed, destroyed SUV's in my path. This argument that size and bulk means safety is what got us into this stupid position of America having a car and truck fleet totally out of whack with the high costs of fuel.
Back when cars became really big, gas wasn't that expensive.

Right now, big cars are out of whack with the high cost of gas. Ten years ago, if we'd known that 99-cent gas would be 4-dollar gas in 2008, would people have still bought their gigantic Suburbans? Probably not.

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Many Americans will be getting rid of the giant Detroit Iron parked in their driveways. It is simply too expensive to operate these things. The pain will be great. Most of us can look in the mirror to see who is at fault here...
You're right. If gas gets higher and/or stays high, eventually I'll have to park my big car too. I will, however, wait for the vast majority of other people to do so first. I only have one life to live... and I can't take my money with me. If I can help it, I will be as safe as possible when I drive.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I don't think Metros get 75 or even 50 mpg. What I've read says they get 41 combined. Pretty good, even so.

I'll stick to my Prius though. I'm getting 48 city, and it's much bigger and more comfortable than a Metro!
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Old 05-25-2008, 04:28 AM
 
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I'd like to recommend the early Saturn for a commuter car. I have a '93 wagon that gets 38 mpg on the road. I've been told they have high safety ratings.

Compared to a 50 mpg Prius or Metro you are only using 5 more gallons a month for a 20 mile commute (800 total). Ford Escort sedans/hatchbacks also get that kind of mpg.

Those cars are so cheap you can afford to keep the SUV in the garage until you really need it.

Better yet is carpooling. I was feeling really smug on a road trip in my dad's prius and a big SUV pulled up next to me at the trailhead. But when 4 people piled out of the SUV I realized they were getting mugh better mpg/p than I was as as single driver.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:17 AM
 
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I am surprised I have not seen one post addressing the issue of reducing the number of vehicles you own as a way to cut your overall expenses. Why doesn't the average smart individual assess there extra costs to own more cars than they really need.
I have personal friends with vehicles all over the place just sitting around so they can pick and choose which one to drive today.
Unless you are well heald, those days are comming to an end.

Get smart now a sell the excess in your life.

Silverfox
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:24 AM
 
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The newer Metros only get about 30 mpg. My parents have a 2000 Chevrolet Metro LSI. The old Metros got 45 mpg on the highway which is far better than the hybrids. If you do a lot of city driving, the hybrids are far better. Eventually, if everyone gets hybrids, we could start seeing people slow down their commutes on the local highways in order to max their fuel efficiency.
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