SUV drivers should be charged with TREASON!!!! (pickup trucks, prices, racing)

[FightinPhils]

I love how the large SUV drivers just think we should drill for more oil here....and they only say that to satisfy their desire to drive large gas-hogging vehicles with cheap gas. I say we should drill for oil here, but at the same time, there should be different prices for drivers of fuel-efficient vehicles vs. drivers of gas-hogging SUV's. The person with a GMC Yukon or other trendy lemming gas-hog should pay $6/gallon, and responsible people like me who drive 4-cylinder cars should pay $2/gallon.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by 58robbo

mrkrabs you can try explaining that to greatday all year. i have allocated about 5 posts to doing just that. the guy just doesn't get it. you know i always wondered who the warnings on coffee mugs were for. i just found out

Well Sparky - here's the reality of the situation: MOST, not all, MOST people tend to "lump" - stereotype - and they will mention, for instance - "SUV's v MONSTER SUV's - and there is a difference.

I tend to like to make absolutely CLEAR - not subject to any interpertation, what I'm trying to say.

You on the other hand seem to believe that a) everyone has the same mindset you do (perish the thought) or b) that everyone is a mindreader and c) you make assumptions

So, now I at least know, because you DEFINED / REFINDED your comments, that you are only talking about MONSTER SUV's - and now we may continue.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

I love how the large SUV drivers just think we should drill for more oil here....and they only say that to satisfy their desire to drive large gas-hogging vehicles with cheap gas. I say we should drill for oil here, but at the same time, there should be different prices for drivers of fuel-efficient vehicles vs. drivers of gas-hogging SUV's. The person with a GMC Yukon or other trendy lemming gas-hog should pay $6/gallon, and responsible people like me who drive 4-cylinder cars should pay $2/gallon.

The problem with your idea is this: There actually are people who NEED those larger vehicles for their jobs. Perhaps you don't notice it but, many will recognize the need. Be it the larger Pickups (dulleys), or larger vehicles like Expeditions that haul these monster flat bed trailers with equipment on them etc

What you are now suggesting would charge more to those who do use the vehicles for work -

AND, don't forget - not everyone has the luxury to have multiple vehicles - so some might get the larger truck for work AND personal -

How exactly would you handle that?

[FightinPhils]

Originally Posted by Greatday

The problem with your idea is this: There actually are people who NEED those larger vehicles for their jobs. Perhaps you don't notice it but, many will recognize the need. Be it the larger Pickups (dulleys), or larger vehicles like Expeditions that haul these monster flat bed trailers with equipment on them etc

What you are now suggesting would charge more to those who do use the vehicles for work -

AND, don't forget - not everyone has the luxury to have multiple vehicles - so some might get the larger truck for work AND personal -

How exactly would you handle that?

I think actual NEEDS, such as work, should be exempt....but all these people who could legitmately drive cars who choose to drive these gas guzzlers should pay more. Why should I pay more because of the greed and waste of others? Part of the reason for expensive gas is the oil companies know that demand for oil is high in the US because Americans can't get over their love affair with driving supersized vehicles. People who are responsible and drive smaller cars should not have to pay the same. And people could afford two vehicles if they need a truck for work....if I can afford two vehicles for my family on my modest salary, just about anyone can.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

And people could afford two vehicles if they need a truck for work....if I can afford two vehicles for my family on my modest salary, just about anyone can.

Oh - I really have to disagree with you on your point above

Take into account cost of two vehicles, insuring two vehicles, licensing two vehicles - you get someone who is near a minimum wage job - what with paying rent, utilities, health insurance etc -

Many flat out cannot afford two vehicles -

While I might agree that your idea has some merit, as a practicle issue - it would be very unwieldy to operate - it will not happen.

[cdelena]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

I love how the large SUV drivers just think we should drill for more oil here....and they only say that to satisfy their desire to drive large gas-hogging vehicles with cheap gas. I say we should drill for oil here, but at the same time, there should be different prices for drivers of fuel-efficient vehicles vs. drivers of gas-hogging SUV's. The person with a GMC Yukon or other trendy lemming gas-hog should pay $6/gallon, and responsible people like me who drive 4-cylinder cars should pay $2/gallon.

Huh? There is a penalty for using more fuel... you pay for it and the taxes that go with it. I don't drive a SUV but don't want you or the government to tell us what we can drive... How would you like guidelenes on where you can go because some people think your trips are a waste of gas? If they can pay for the gas they should be free to drive whatever they want.

[58robbo]

i'm not for charging different rates or taxes or any regulation of any sort. if you drive a big auto your punishment will be the price you pay at the pump and on your conscience.

what i am opposed to is oil company subsidies. if it costs (x) to produce then that must be passed on. i also am opposed to foreign invasions to protect a steady stream from the middle east. if they want to withhold their oil for whatever reason, then that is their right as a sovereign nation. our response to that should be innovation, super efficiency and an attitude that if we pull together then other nations can't hold us ransom.

it also helps if you have leadership who has the foresight to attack both sides of the problem, not just the supply side like reagan. and while the president is at it, a good dose of 'leadership by example' would go down a treat. the 10 gigantic suv cavalcades have gotta go along with airforce one.

this is just my opinion. i'm sure i'm going to get at least 10 replies about the safety of the president. plus the wars to protect the supply of oil. please save it. if one president goes there are more than enough willing, capable men and women to take his or her place! lol

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by MrKrabs

I love how the large SUV drivers just think we should drill for more oil here....and they only say that to satisfy their desire to drive large gas-hogging vehicles with cheap gas. I say we should drill for oil here, but at the same time, there should be different prices for drivers of fuel-efficient vehicles vs. drivers of gas-hogging SUV's. The person with a GMC Yukon or other trendy lemming gas-hog should pay $6/gallon, and responsible people like me who drive 4-cylinder cars should pay $2/gallon.

The price difference is already there... it's called cost per mile driven and takes into account all expense items...

As far as a different price for fuel, that price difference is also built-in... Drivers of vehicles which require more fuel per miles driven pay more in taxes for roads and into the General Fund...

[JFRRACING]

SOMEONE PUT A FORK IN THIS THREAD, CAUSE IT'S DONE!!!!!!

[58robbo]

Originally Posted by JFRRACING

SOMEONE PUT A FORK IN THIS THREAD, CAUSE IT'S DONE!!!!!!

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