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05-28-2008, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Great Cartoons - thanks
Think about this: The next time you go to the Grocery store, and carry out your groceries in that plastic bag, YOU are part of the problem
Or, the next time you buy a product wrapped in one of those BIG plastic packages, you are part of the problem
Or, the next time you buy something for your home, that is encased in plastic, you are part of the problem
Or, the next time you go to your doctor / hospital, and they insert an IV line into you, YOU are part of the problem
Or, the car you are driving with all the plastic parts - YOU are part of the problem.
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That's all nothing compared to driving a gas-hog SUV. Plus, those are things that not much can be done about...but its simple for people to start driving a more sensible vehicle....hell, in most cases, it would be cheaper to buy a more fuel-efficient car as opposed to a SUV. But if makes you feel better about being a lemming and driving a huge gas-hog SUV, then whatever. Screw gas prices, you got a nice trendy vehicle to drive to the mall.
I re-use all those plastic bags I get at the store. I recycle all papers and bottles and cans.
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05-28-2008, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MrKrabs
That's all nothing compared to driving a gas-hog SUV. Plus, those are things that not much can be done about...but its simple for people to start driving a more sensible vehicle....hell, in most cases, it would be cheaper to buy a more fuel-efficient car as opposed to a SUV. But if makes you feel better about being a lemming and driving a huge gas-hog SUV, then whatever. Screw gas prices, you got a nice trendy vehicle to drive to the mall.
I re-use all those plastic bags I get at the store. I recycle all papers and bottles and cans.
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First off - I don't drive a "gas hog" SUV -
Next, I know your Toyota could not get to my home once in a while -
You can ditch the plastic bags all together and get the reuseable canvas bags
You can quit buying all those plastic products etc.
Lots you can do.
SUV's are not "THE" problem Sparky
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05-28-2008, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
First off - I don't drive a "gas hog" SUV -
Next, I know your Toyota could not get to my home once in a while -
You can ditch the plastic bags all together and get the reuseable canvas bags
You can quit buying all those plastic products etc.
Lots you can do.
SUV's are not "THE" problem Sparky
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Well, that's also your problem for living way out in the boondocks....that's another peeve of mine that goes right along with the SUV topic....more and more people living out in the "exurbs" in cookie cutter developments and ridiculously huge houses, necessitating long commutes to work...rather than living in cities and established suburbs. Nothing says American waste like the McMansion with the 3 car garage and SUV's, in the cul-de-sac development with no sidewalks, no character, no front porches, and is a drive from everything.
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05-28-2008, 09:06 AM
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The Texan formerly known as NWPAguy
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Originally Posted by MrKrabs
I think actual NEEDS, such as work, should be exempt....but all these people who could legitmately drive cars who choose to drive these gas guzzlers should pay more. Why should I pay more because of the greed and waste of others? Part of the reason for expensive gas is the oil companies know that demand for oil is high in the US because Americans can't get over their love affair with driving supersized vehicles. People who are responsible and drive smaller cars should not have to pay the same. And people could afford two vehicles if they need a truck for work....if I can afford two vehicles for my family on my modest salary, just about anyone can.
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Mr. Krabs, if you had ever been in an accident where your large car saved you from potentially severe injury, you would be singing a different song about whether or not people who drive "unnecessarily" large cars should pay more per gallon than you do. I was in such an accident. That's why I continue driving large cars. I only get one body... I can always get more gas money.
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05-28-2008, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MrKrabs
Well, that's also your problem for living way out in the boondocks....that's another peeve of mine that goes right along with the SUV topic....more and more people living out in the "exurbs" in cookie cutter developments and ridiculously huge houses, necessitating long commutes to work...rather than living in cities and established suburbs. Nothing says American waste like the McMansion with the 3 car garage and SUV's, in the cul-de-sac development with no sidewalks, no character, no front porches, and is a drive from everything.
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Actually, I do live out a'ways. About a 45 mile drive to my office each way -
But, we are not in a "cookie cutter" development - We have about 5 acres, in the desert, at the base of a beautiful mountain. We built our home last year (a little over 4,000 sq ft) out of real adobe block. Our property is totally solar powered - there is no utility lines of any kind to our property - we have our own well - and we are completely desert landscape - Our home has lots of character - don't need a "front porch" as we have a large area with the pool and outdoor kitchen (which we use a lot). Our nearest neigbor is about a mile away.
We do have room for our vehicles and the boat though - and, then the workshop off the garage.
Its wonderful: Starry nights (no city lights to interfere), quiet (no car or airplane noise of any kind). What we do hear though are the Coyotes howling during a full moon. Or, the quail makeing their beautiful songs.
I guess you cannot relate to this type of lifestyle though.
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05-28-2008, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NWPAguy
Mr. Krabs, if you had ever been in an accident where your large car saved you from potentially severe injury, you would be singing a different song about whether or not people who drive "unnecessarily" large cars should pay more per gallon than you do. I was in such an accident. That's why I continue driving large cars. I only get one body... I can always get more gas money.
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But if so many people were not driving large vehicles, then there wouldn't be such an accident risk. Plus, this may be a different argument, but if people would slow down a bit and stop speeding and driving so recklessly, that would go a long way in making our roads safer.
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05-28-2008, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
You can ditch the plastic bags all together and get the reuseable canvas bags
Lots you can do.
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and then something weird happened..........
............Greatday used his brain!!!!
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05-28-2008, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NWPAguy
Mr. Krabs, if you had ever been in an accident where your large car saved you from potentially severe injury, you would be singing a different song about whether or not people who drive "unnecessarily" large cars should pay more per gallon than you do. I was in such an accident. That's why I continue driving large cars. I only get one body... I can always get more gas money.
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If everyone drove small cars, then I wouldn't have to worry about being T-boned by a 5' bimbo on her cell phone speeding in her jacked up Excursion. I refuse to dump hundreds of dollars down a gas pump every month and support terrorism for the silly argument (rationalization) that I have to drive a monster vehicle to be safe.
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05-28-2008, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by denverian
If everyone drove small cars, then I wouldn't have to worry about being T-boned by a 5' bimbo on her cell phone speeding in her jacked up Excursion. I refuse to dump hundreds of dollars down a gas pump every month and support terrorism for the silly argument (rationalization) that I have to drive a monster vehicle to be safe.
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Agreed!
I couldn't have said it better myself!
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05-28-2008, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by denverian
If everyone drove small cars, then I wouldn't have to worry about being T-boned by a 5' bimbo on her cell phone speeding in her jacked up Excursion. I refuse to dump hundreds of dollars down a gas pump every month and support terrorism for the silly argument (rationalization) that I have to drive a monster vehicle to be safe.
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Jacked up, Raked, Low Riders, Hot Rods etc - Customizing your vehicle has been around for Decades.
The ones that have always amazed me are the low riders with their ability to "jump" or "bounce" with the special suspensions they put in.
There is a lot of money in some of those cars!
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