SUV drivers should be charged with TREASON!!!! (German, gasoline, diesel)

[Lindsey_Mcfarren]

Originally Posted by k350

Because no one ever dies in a car wreck, thats why cars are much safer than mass transit. Please, lose the paranoya grip. We are no further spread out than anyone else, what, you drive hundreds of miles everyday? I bet everything a person needs for daily life, with the exception of work, is within a few miles of their house. The problme is they made it just far enough to not be able to walk to it or ride a bike, but yet close enough to make it a short trip in the car. City planners for you, always thinking ahead.

You have no idea where BP gets its oil from. You surely do not think BP pumps enough oil to supply itself do you? Considering Exxon makes up only 2% of the world market and they are the largest private owned oil company, how much you think BP is actually pumping?

Actually I have done some reading on the subject about the companies that do not get their oil from the gulf AND there are some companies who don't. These are the companies I patronize.

As far as how spread out we are, you might take a look at a map of the UK and compare the overall size of the country to the entire US. Its not feasible anytime soon for us to have the kind of public transit system they have. I would LOVE it if we could because I would definetly use it.

AND while people might get killed in cars, its going to take an SUV as big as mine or a tractor trailor to hurt me in my SUV which is one of the reasons I drive one. My daughter and I are safer. I love Japanese cars but I have seen FAR too many of them crumple like a soda can on impact. I have lived in Florida since 2001, in a 16 month period I was rear ended 3 times, each time the other cars were terribly damaged, one time the other car (a small fuel eficient model) was so badly damaged it was undrivable while leaving my truck unscratched. I was even slammed into by a HUGE LTD and received very little damage.

My daughters and my safety comes first.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by TJJackson

I am from the USA and I think that there should be a tax on all big SUVs to the tune of five thousand a year. and a five thousand a year credit given to any one buying a thirty plus MPG car. This country is full if neocon idiots that think it is some birth right to have one skinny skank driving a Tahoe.

It's also full of immature people who can't carry on a civil dialog to save their lives.

[tande1n5]

I've come to see fewer new SUV's on the road... many of the ones that are on the road you can tell have been owned for a while, as opposed to being new.

Gas alone isn't enough to make everyone throw their SUV away for some new, eco-friendly car. If you've got a 2001 Tahoe that's in good repair, lots of life left, and is paid off... there's still really no economical justification to throw it off a cliff and get a new car... even a Prius' price can buy a LOT of gas for the Tahoe before you've seen a "savings."

[texdav]

Originally Posted by 58robbo

I have read several posts whingeing about high gas prices. it's big oils fault for profiteering! it's the governements fault for overtaxing! it's the feds fault for devaluing the dollar! it's opecs fault for being greedy! it's environmentalists fault for protesting against wildlife preserve exploration! it's speculators fault for creating false demand! the Chinese and Indians are to blame for giving up their bicycles to buy cars! it's george bush's fault! blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda

whenever i'm in the states i seem to come across a large number of grossly oversized vehicles. a large number of these have US flags brandished across them in some shape or form. a large percentage of their owners sport flags outside their homes. to me this is all a big con. those people aren't patriots, they're traitors!

Guilty of bankrupting the US and financing Al Qaeda, they should be flying saudi flags instead!

In reality to me the closest to traitors are those who don't want us to drill for our own supplies in many areas. Why;because they force us to send our money overseas to the enemy that is why.Most are too stupid to see this.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by tande1n5

I've come to see fewer new SUV's on the road... many of the ones that are on the road you can tell have been owned for a while, as opposed to being new.

Gas alone isn't enough to make everyone throw their SUV away for some new, eco-friendly car. If you've got a 2001 Tahoe that's in good repair, lots of life left, and is paid off... there's still really no economical justification to throw it off a cliff and get a new car... even a Prius' price can buy a LOT of gas for the Tahoe before you've seen a "savings."

That just makes too much sense (and I agree with you 100% as well).

No car payments especially factoring in a short commute more than cancels out 'Prius' MPG assuming your Tahoe is reliable

[k350]

Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren

Actually I have done some reading on the subject about the companies that do not get their oil from the gulf AND there are some companies who don't. These are the companies I patronize.

As far as how spread out we are, you might take a look at a map of the UK and compare the overall size of the country to the entire US. Its not feasible anytime soon for us to have the kind of public transit system they have. I would LOVE it if we could because I would definetly use it.

AND while people might get killed in cars, its going to take an SUV as big as mine or a tractor trailor to hurt me in my SUV which is one of the reasons I drive one. My daughter and I are safer. I love Japanese cars but I have seen FAR too many of them crumple like a soda can on impact. I have lived in Florida since 2001, in a 16 month period I was rear ended 3 times, each time the other cars were terribly damaged, one time the other car (a small fuel eficient model) was so badly damaged it was undrivable while leaving my truck unscratched. I was even slammed into by a HUGE LTD and received very little damage.

My daughters and my safety comes first.

Oh, but Mexico, Nigeria and Venuzuala are so much better than the gulf nations? Plus as I said, a little bit of reading does not at all touch the depth of the world oil market. Plus there are more things made from oil than fuel, lots more things, you may be supporting Sudan all you know. Oil companies are also the logistic shuttles for world oil to our shores.

Yes, I use to live in the UK and know how big it is, now, take the whole of Europe since its a very integrated economy and you will see that you can easily get to about every square inch of the continent by some form of mass transit or easy walking/biking, I have personally traveled the whole of Europe and European Russia many times just fine by mass transit, I have gone all the way into central asia by mass transit, all very easily and conviently. Mass transit in America is for the most part ill functioning and associated with crime and poor people.

I made the statement about car deaths in regards to your concerns over some far fetched terror attack scenario. Yes things can happen but facts stand that a person is way more likely to die in a car wreck than be a victim of a terror attack.

[k350]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

That just makes too much sense (and I agree with you 100% as well).

No car payments especially factoring in a short commute more than cancels out 'Prius' MPG assuming your Tahoe is reliable

That is the same situation I am in. I bought my explorer for a job I use to have that required me to haul sensitive electronics around the southeast. Now I have quit the job and going to college but heck, the explorer is paid for so no point in trading it in, even if I broke even on the trade in, the sales tax alone is enough to buy me fuel for a long time.

I would love to get a more fuel efficent car, but it just is not economically feasable right now, especially with me being in college. If I had a job I would go ahead and do it.

[Hobokenkitchen]

Originally Posted by NWPAguy

The environmentalists are largely to blame as well... Democrats in general hold a lot of blame for lack of American oil exploration. It's a well-known fact that America has very large oil reserves... some people speculate that we have one of the world's absolute largest oil reserves in Alaska... but the environmentalists all scream whenever anyone dares to talk about drilling for oil in Alaska or off of our coasts or whatever. God forbid that some esoteric Arctic seal should be driven to extinction by our drilling for oil... oh no... I'd bet that if you polled 100 average Americans about what they care about more... the Arctic seal population or gas prices... you could count on one hand the number of 'em who would say the Arctic seal population. (And on top of all of this, there's no guarantee that oil drilling would drive species to extinction.

OMG; I don't even know what to say about this. You really don't give a rat's behind about what this generation leaves behind for the next one do you? It's all about instant gratification.
No wonder most of the planet has already been royal messed up with attitudes like this.

How about you engage your brain and start thinking about alternative fuel methods so that drilling in some of the only unspoiled areas left on the planet isn't necessary.

This kind of 'Me, Me, Me' attitude is just sickening.

[Greatday]

Gee - here is another anti SUV thread -

Look, there are many cars - AUTOMOBILES - that get the same, OR WORSE gas mileage than SUV's

AND, you guys condemn ALL SUV's when many SUV's get better gas mileage than some cars do!

BTW, do you know that the PT Cruiser is an SUV?

SUV's are not the reason for higher gas prices -

[k350]

considering the ANWR has about 500 days worth of oil at our consumption rate, I seriously doubt any drilling would do anything other than screw up yet another pristine environment for many generations to come.