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Old 05-29-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The problem is horses eat even when they are not pulling anything. If they are, they eat more. Hay around here is $4-5 a bale. Gasoline is cheaper per hp-hr.
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: NH. NY. SC. next move, my ground condo
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The problem is horses eat even when they are not pulling anything. If they are, they eat more. Hay around here is $4-5 a bale. Gasoline is cheaper per hp-hr.

ha ha ha well said ,very funny though.
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:18 PM
 
Location: southern california
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gas prices not goin down. they took our cheese buddy. gas prices tip of the ice berg. get ready for some real change. we as americans will soon get the opportunity to prove once again who we are. if hillary had made the white house might have stopped the war and got a few more years of the good life, oh well.
the diet will start early. if you think this is a lil dip in the road, that would be like seeing the sahara 1st time & thinkin its a lil sand trap b4 9th hole green.
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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The problem is horses eat even when they are not pulling anything. If they are, they eat more. Hay around here is $4-5 a bale. Gasoline is cheaper per hp-hr.
Forget the horse this is more my style...


An ostrich would do great for road rage. Ever seen an angry ostrich?
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NH. NY. SC. next move, my ground condo
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OMG LMAO THAT IS REALLY FUNNY
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Kind of like an angry rooster but bigger? Remember the dinosaurs didn't die out but the survivors evolved into birds. Angry ostrich - no thanks.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:31 AM
 
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Default 3. Its not 10k more? They use pounds in the UK and euros in other parts of europe which is worth 2x-3x more then the dol

# 1 Natural gas has doubled in the last year.

# 2 you are probably correct.

#3 I was converting prices to the US dollar. Pound is around $1.97and the Euro is not worth 2 or 3 times the dollar, in 2002-2003 when we were there it was $.82 to .97, now it is $1.56 for a Euro. Other parts of Europe varied, Czech Republic, Croatia, Poland things were much cheaper, but don't remember what the exchange rate was in 2002-2003.
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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Beer cheaper than gas! Drink don't drive!
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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We are sitting on a large deposit of shale oil but with all the environmental issues, it's expensive to tap and refine here. Building a new refinery in this country is cost prohibitive due to legislation. While tapping our reserves and building new refineries will help with supply, it won't result in a price drop. The oil companies will need to recoup the cost of getting the oil out of the ground and processing it.

Get used to high fuel prices, they're here to stay. The good news is, as they develop alternative fuels, and new technologies, those vehicles and fuels should become cheaper. But that will take time. For now, we're stuck paying the piper because we kept on driving SUV's and didn't buy the hybrids and alternative fuel vehicles.

I think we will see fuel economy go up in new vehicles but it will be years before the average American has something in their driveway that gets great gas mileage. For now, it's either pay up front when you buy the vehicle or pay at the pump.

I drive a Windstar that only gets about 19 MPG and I'm not trading it in any time soon because I'd pay more in a car payment than I'm paying at the pump. (when I bought it, I worked 1.7 miles from home (unemployed like half of Michigan right now) so I wasn't worried about mileage). When I do buy a new vehicle, I'll have to weigh whether the increased car payment is worth the increased gas mileage like the rest of America.
Yup we're the Saudi of coal (which can be refined to oil), oil shale and perhaps corn, I'm sure we can do more than just buy dirty oil from the dirty saudis. I drive a Mazda3 btw, I get 400 miles to 12 gallons. Was gona get a SUV hybrid but I still get more mileage than a hybrid!!! Unfortunately you do need an SUV/Truck where I live about 8000ft in elevation in the Rockies, 1 mile of driveway to plow during the winters.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:52 PM
 
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As individuals, check your tire pressure, most "non-car-people" don't keep up with that, put in what it says on the door jamb, and maybe 2-4 PSI more than that, see how this works. Don't get carried away. Tune up items.
A lot of cars seem to have under inflated tires. Mine lose pressure easily, so I make sure to keep their PSI high. Ever since I've started doing that, it seems like I'm getting significantly better gas mileage.
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