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Old 08-06-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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Europeans have never been masters of electronics... always the Japanese and Americans. There is alot of semiconductor/electronic components in hybrids.
That's not entirely true. Granted that the Japanese and US are paving the way of electronics, don't cut out the EU yet! They have been on top of the diesel technology for some time!

Motor Authority » VW announces new hybrid and electric models
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:53 AM
 
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That's not entirely true. Granted that the Japanese and US are paving the way of electronics, don't cut out the EU yet! They have been on top of the diesel technology for some time!

Motor Authority » VW announces new hybrid and electric models
Im just saying they haven't really shown much innovation in that department. They are still clinging to their mechanical systems... which is fine, but everyone is caught up with mechanics already... not a whole lot of innovation has taken place with engine mechanics over the past 40 years, relatively speaking.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:16 PM
 
Location: The Frenchie Farm, Where We Grow 'em Big!
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I gottcha!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Netherlands (Europe)
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Europeans have never been masters of electronics... always the Japanese and Americans. There is alot of semiconductor/electronic components in hybrids.
You probably never heard of ASML, Philips or other companies like that. ASML used to have about 70-80% of the semiconductor market and is Dutch. Philips is known for a lot more that just lightbulbs, including electronic ocmponents and semiconductors.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:33 PM
 
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You probably never heard of ASML, Philips or other companies like that. ASML used to have about 70-80% of the semiconductor market and is Dutch. Philips is known for a lot more that just lightbulbs, including electronic ocmponents and semiconductors.
Oh quite familiar actually, we have a couple machines here in the lab from ASML. Fact remains that Japanese and Americans have and continue to dominate electronic and semiconductor engineering.

Also ASML is only a litho company...
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Old 08-06-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: appleton, wi
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The european automakers are smart enough to know that hybrids are a sham. But due to public demand they will be trickling out soon enough. You'll even see some diesel hybrids coming.
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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You probably never heard of ASML, Philips or other companies like that. ASML used to have about 70-80% of the semiconductor market and is Dutch. Philips is known for a lot more that just lightbulbs, including electronic ocmponents and semiconductors.
Not to mention developed the compact disc format.
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Europeans have never been masters of electronics... always the Japanese and Americans. There is alot of semiconductor/electronic components in hybrids.
PHILIPS, SIEMENS, NOKIA, BANG&OLUFSON, ERIKCSON, VDO, BLAUPUNKT...It is seven am and it took me all of 30 seconds to put that list up! Your post does not hold water sorry I believe you no not of which you speek!
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Not to mention developed the compact disc format.
In the early '80s they even made VIDEO 2000 a VHS like player with a tape like a cassette tape where both sides could be used. playing time as I recall was 10 hours! It went the way of BetaMax, but was truely the better thatn VHS and Betamax.

My point being, "just because the products don't come to the USA does not mean that they don't have them "
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:25 AM
 
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PHILIPS, SIEMENS, NOKIA, BANG&OLUFSON, ERIKCSON, VDO, BLAUPUNKT...It is seven am and it took me all of 30 seconds to put that list up! Your post does not hold water sorry I believe you no not of which you speek!
I am confused on where you think I said that Europeans had no role in electronics... could you please point out where I said that? JAPANESE AND AMERICANS DOMINATE ELECTRONICS!!!

Oh, and at least I "speek" proper English...
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