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Old 12-31-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Marine City
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you will never be anywhere close to 12's with those tires
Who said anything about those tires? I'll put my BFG drags on before I hit the track. This is how I driver it everyday 98 miles R/T to and from work. The title says sleeper cars, nobody expects to get handed there a$$ by a GTP generally.
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Old 12-31-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I would say a modren sleeper would be a 4th gen camaro or 99-04 mustang that looks 100% stock but runs a huge shot of nitrous 175-200 shot that will pretty catch most people off-guard.

when a 350HP-400HP daily driver pony car becomes a 600HP-650HP monster at the flick of switch and a turn of a valve then that is a sleeper IMO

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Old 12-31-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Marine City
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And I doubt 28MPG. My 98 3800 GP never came close to that number.
Highway driving @ 70MPH, 28MPG all day long, all around it's more like 23-24 with some spirited driving mixed in.
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
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^^ Hard to believe.
This is more realistic.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/***/noframes/15145.shtml (broken link)
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Best sleeper I know of was a '65 chevy wagon. I had a full custom built tube chassis, and all the side and back windows were tinted so dark, it might have been black paint. It sit like a stock wagon with weak springs. There was a slpash guard all the way across the back right behind the tires that litterly drug the pavement. It had Moon Disc wheel covers. The engine? a NHRA Pro Stock engine with 4 exhaust pipes of 3 1/2" with custom built mufflers. It was so quiet you could not hear it. But it was a solid low 9 second car if not into the 8's. He made alot of money with it!!!
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Well I've always liked the M5's, generally unnoticeable differences between that and it's brothers, for the general public, but a lot of go fast under the bonnet.

As for the ultimate sleeper I've seen myself that's been modified?

How about a 90's model BMW 316i Compact (I doubt you had those over here) with complete BMW M3 running gear (diff, transmission, all of it) custom modified to fit, Bilstein pro racing suspension set up and the mother of all BMW 5.6 L V12 (out of the BMW 8 series) and then reprogrammed ECU, intake plus a few other things (I think they actually put an ESS supercharger on it eventually).
Other than a slightly lower stance, and M3 sportseats inside, if you looked in, there was not a single telltale sign on the outside part from one little thing, that most people wouldn't look at... The 316i sign was switched for one saying 356i.
We actually did get those for a few years here in the States, but they were all 318 models with the 1.8 liter. My dad was getting his doctorate at Harvard at the time, and I swear: 80% of all the 3-series compacts in the US must have been sold to Harvard students. BMW discontinued them but then Mercedes released their C-class compact and it filled the void. They were everywhere. You barely see them here on the West Coast, though.

I've ever seen one with a V12 in it, but I have seen a couple with complete E36 M3 swaps. Never been a fan of E36 M3's (the Deutschenfanboy special... god, I hate those things), but the compact version I could make an exception for.
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Old 12-31-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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We actually did get those for a few years here in the States, but they were all 318 models with the 1.8 liter. My dad was getting his doctorate at Harvard at the time, and I swear: 80% of all the 3-series compacts in the US must have been sold to Harvard students. BMW discontinued them but then Mercedes released their C-class compact and it filled the void. They were everywhere. You barely see them here on the West Coast, though.

I've ever seen one with a V12 in it, but I have seen a couple with complete E36 M3 swaps. Never been a fan of E36 M3's (the Deutschenfanboy special... god, I hate those things), but the compact version I could make an exception for.
`Yeah this V12 version had some "go fast" in it. It was pretty ridiculous actually, only seen it launch once, but it was a sight.

Another car slightly similar as far a insanity goes would be the (not so sleeper) Dählbäcks VW Golf IV with around 1250hp feeding through all 4 wheels. It'd spin up in 5th going 155mph.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I don't understand why people keep mentioning Camaros and Mustangs as "sleepers." A purpose-built sports car never really falls under my definition of a "sleeper" since you still expect them to be faster cars from the factory lot. I mean, you certainly don't expect a '99 Ram Air Trans Am to have a 200 shot of nitrous and a 502 crate, or an '89 Iroc to have a top speed of 230mph, but you expect that a lot more than you'd expect a late 80's CRX to be able to pull on a Lamborghini Murcielago:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAxZXleArV4&feature=fvst
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:55 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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^^^^^^

obviously fake...
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Well I've seen some 1700hp Hondas, so it's not impossible.
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