my most hated automotive trend (muscle car, engine, auto, sedans)

[Linson]

my most hated automotive trend is this: GM, particularly Pontiac's new line of performance vehicles. i.e. boring, ugly, sedans with performance car engines. for example, the Dodge Charger - a slap in the face to anyone who remembers the 68-70 Chargers. any late model Impala with a V-8, even if it is RWD. let's not forget about the mecifully now defunct GTO. and worst of all IMO, the Pontiac G8. yuck! my blood boils every time i see that god damned Grand Am with with that stupid damned ram air hood. yeah, that's what we need are ram air hoods on four-door utilitarian sedans. let's just beat the success of the 1998-2002 Trans Am WS6 hood into the dirt by putting it on everything immaginable.

but, Linson, the G8 is a great performing car, and it makes 375 HP, and it can do this and it can do that and its uuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnggggggggggghhh...... --shut your mouth! you know nothing of sports cars. if you drop an LS1 or an LS2 into anything, it's gonna have a respectable level of performance, period. if GM wasnt so corperate (i.e. soulless) and that what those G8's and others are - soulless - they would design a new Firebird, or a GTO worthy of the name, or imagine this - an all new sports car, with an all new heritage. nah, they would never do that.

historically, a GM backer, i will say that Ford did it right with the new Mustang, and for that i give Ford credit. 300 HP & 320 TQ from a high reving 281 ci motor, and great styling, and an awesome muscle car sound, for under 30K. oh, yeah, and a huge after market.

word ot the day - purpose-built performance car.

[8 SNAKE]

Originally Posted by Linson

my blood boils every time i see that god damned Grand Am with with that stupid damned ram air hood.

Knock it off with the language. If you can't communicate your point in a respectable manner, keep it to yourself because I don't want to read this crap.

[okie333]

Originally Posted by Linson

my most hated automotive trend is this: GM, particularly Pontiac's new line of performance vehicles. i.e. boring, ugly, sedans with performance car engines. for example, the Dodge Charger - a slap in the face to anyone who remembers the 68-70 Chargers. any late model Impala with a V-8, even if it is RWD. let's not forget about the mecifully now defunct GTO. and worst of all IMO, the Pontiac G8. yuck! my blood boils every time i see that god damned Grand Am with with that stupid damned ram air hood. yeah, that's what we need are ram air hoods on four-door utilitarian sedans. let's just beat the success of the 1998-2002 Trans Am WS6 hood into the dirt by putting it on everything immaginable.

but, Linson, the G8 is a great performing car, and it makes 375 HP, and it can do this and it can do that and its uuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnggggggggggghhh...... --shut your mouth! you know nothing of sports cars. if you drop an LS1 or an LS2 into anything, it's gonna have a respectable level of performance, period. if GM wasnt so corperate (i.e. soulless) and that what those G8's and others are - soulless - they would design a new Firebird, or a GTO worthy of the name, or imagine this - an all new sports car, with an all new heritage. nah, they would never do that.

historically, a GM backer, i will say that Ford did it right with the new Mustang, and for that i give Ford credit. 300 HP & 320 TQ from a high reving 281 ci motor, and great styling, and an awesome muscle car sound, for under 30K. oh, yeah, and a huge after market.

word ot the day - purpose-built performance car.

I agree with you. I think the reason is these companies are trying to bring in the younger people who don't really have an attatchment to the older cooler styles. It sucks big time.

I know even toyota did it with the FJcruiser, they created a bloated rav4 with a white top and a 4runner drive train and called it a new FJ. They should have staed true to the old fj40 heritage and made it with a removable hardtop, solid front axle with coil springs...exc

yea the new mustang was done right adn hopefully the camaro will be a good hit as well.

I think they got as close as they were allowed to with the new charger but still very far cry from what it should be, very far.

[Donn2390]

Styles change every year, you are living in the 70's. If you don'y like today's styles, buy an old car and restore it.
It's not the cars, it's YOU...!

[Linson]

Originally Posted by 8 SNAKE

Knock it off with the language. If you can't communicate your point in a respectable manner, keep it to yourself because I don't want to read this crap.

well, i really respect your opinion and you've given me a lot to yada yada .........- shut your face! find another thread that's more freindly to your girlish sensibilities.

[Linson]

Originally Posted by Donn2390

Styles change every year, you are living in the 70's. If you don'y like today's styles, buy an old car and restore it.
It's not the cars, it's YOU...!

well you bring up a good point and........... - no. clearly you know nothing about cars or have at the very least completely missed my point. to say that i'm living in the 70's shows that you're uninformed and apt to jump to the most nonsensical of conclusions. as far as word of the day - purpose-built performance cars go, i own four: a '67, a '72, an '89, and a '96.

my point is this. as a performance car enthusiast, my most hated automotive trend is the way that American car companies, especially GM, are stopping production on purpose-built pefromance cars and dropping performance egines into boring sedans such as the Grand Am, calling it something else and adding out of place styling cues such as ram air hoods. it sucks. it's half-hearted and reeks of corperate soullessness and lack of vision.

[Linson]

Originally Posted by okie333

I think they got as close as they were allowed to with the new charger but still very far cry from what it should be, very far.

the only problem with the new Charger is that it bears the name Charger.

[sterlinggirl]

Originally Posted by Linson

well, i really respect your opinion and you've given me a lot to yada yada .........- shut your face! find another thread that's more freindly to your girlish sensibilities.

Did somebody ask for girlish sensibilities? I'll take a Coronet W051
(the same car driven by the little old lady from Pasadena)

[dubthang]

Um... this isn't a new trend. The auto industry has been putting big power under the hoods of family haulers for years. Many people like the sleeper look. People that need a functional vehicle can at least brag a little that there are some ponies under the hood. America is obsessed with horse power, and the industry just responds.

[Fnix]

Originally Posted by sterlinggirl

Did somebody ask for girlish sensibilities? I'll take a Coronet W051
(the same car driven by the little old lady from Pasadena)

Wow a girl that likes the same car I dream of and some day will own.