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Old 11-21-2008, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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1998 F-150. Why does the A/C compressor engage in the floor/vent combination setting but not floor alone or vent alone settings? I understand why it is on in A/C, Max A/C and defrost settings.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Do you mean the "Bi-level" where about half the air comes out the dash vents, and about half out the floor, or the defrost/floor vent setting?

Most all vehicles engage the A/C on defrost/floor, for the benefit of the defrost. The Bi-Level usually does not engage the compressor.

But, check in the owner's manual, this may be normal.
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Old 11-21-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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In older GM cars I think bi-level did engage the compressor, only "vent" and "heat" were considered economy mode. Bi-level was supposed to deliver cool air to the upper body while it delivered slightly warmer air to the feet, although it never worked that great to me.
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Old 11-22-2008, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Do you mean the "Bi-level" where about half the air comes out the dash vents, and about half out the floor, or the defrost/floor vent setting?
Yes.

So, If it is cold in the car and I want warm air and I want the air coming out of the vents and the floor, then I have to have the A/C compressor ON. I wish domestic cars had an independent A/C switch like Toyota. You want the compressor ON? You press the A/C button. It is independent of where the air is set to come from.

So, why was it designed that way? If I don't want the compressor ON, then I have to have floor only or vent only or OFF.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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When the outside temperature dips below a certain point (not sure the exact point), the compressor is not supposed to come on, even if it's on "max".

Most newer domestic cars do have the independent "A/C" and "recirculate" buttons. My Chevy is a '04 and it's that way, just like my mom's Toyota.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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When the outside temperature dips below a certain point (not sure the exact point), the compressor is not supposed to come on, even if it's on "max".
It's 42F here in Huntsville right now. I just tried this. The compressor still went on in the bi-level position and off when I switched to vent or floor. This occurred whether the temperature setting was in full warm or full cold.
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yes.

So, If it is cold in the car and I want warm air and I want the air coming out of the vents and the floor, then I have to have the A/C compressor ON. I wish domestic cars had an independent A/C switch like Toyota. You want the compressor ON? You press the A/C button. It is independent of where the air is set to come from.

So, why was it designed that way? If I don't want the compressor ON, then I have to have floor only or vent only or OFF.
Even with an independent A/C switch, many cars still use compressed air if any of it is directed at the windshield and will override the A/C switch's "off" setting to do so. But it does seem silly to use compressed air if none of it is directed at the windshield. I wonder if your particular example wasn't wired properly.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I wonder if your particular example wasn't wired properly.
Does this mean the compressor should not be engaging when in the vent/floor position on a 1998 F-150?
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Does this mean the compressor should not be engaging when in the vent/floor position on a 1998 F-150?
I don't know if it's "not supposed to," I'm just saying I don't see why the compressor should be turning on in winter unless some of the air is directed at the windshield to serve a defrost function. Maybe Ford did it on purpose on your truck, though if so, I don't know why. Or maybe it's not actually supposed to do that but for some reason it does on your specific truck. I honestly don't know.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Do you mean the "Bi-level" where about half the air comes out the dash vents, and about half out the floor, or the defrost/floor vent setting?
I just re-read your question. I meant the floor and the vent panel, not the floor and the defrost windshield. So I guess the Bi-level, if that is what it is called.
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