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Unread 12-04-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Can you beleive those asshats drove there in Hybrids to try to make themselves look good?

So they're jerks when they take jets and now they're jerks when they drive. Whaddaya want?
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Unread 12-04-2008, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Texas South High Plains
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No way! Let the industry stay in the Midwest and North East
I agree. I doubt that even Southerners could fix these poor guys.

I do recall an uncle in eastern Texas who had a 1955/6 Ford F100 that had a large oval sticker on the rear glass that read "Made in Texas by Texans." Ah but that was before the public and government got into designing and engineering automobiles for the mediocrity.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Derby, KS
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Can you beleive those asshats drove there in Hybrids to try to make themselves look good?
LOL...yeah. They should have done it the first freaking time. I still can't believe the flack they got for flying in the corporate jet.

Well Lee Iacocca did it back in the day for Chrysler and he went back with the funds.
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Unread 12-04-2008, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Default The Economist Car Section

I just got done reading the Car section of a most recent Economist mag. In China, they have their own car manufacturers, but the Chinese shun them all as inferior products, and buy mostly foreign. Buick is a big seller in China, what a surprise! And they like big cars, SUV's just like the Russians. Also learned that 65% of the cars GM produces are sold in foreign countries. So in the end, it may just come out even-Steven.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 07:27 AM
 
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I just got done reading the Car section of a most recent Economist mag. In China, they have their own car manufacturers, but the Chinese shun them all as inferior products, and buy mostly foreign. Buick is a big seller in China, what a surprise! And they like big cars, SUV's just like the Russians. Also learned that 65% of the cars GM produces are sold in foreign countries. So in the end, it may just come out even-Steven.
I can't picture Buicks driving around in Hong Kong, but at least they know what quality is... couldn't picture that either considering the stuff they make.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 08:33 AM
 
Location: 80919 Rockrimmon yO!
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So they're jerks when they take jets and now they're jerks when they drive. Whaddaya want?

They should have driven them the first time around. They only did it because of the hell they caught for flying in.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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They should have driven them the first time around. They only did it because of the hell they caught for flying in.

So what are you more interested in, what people actually do or their motives? They get critcized and change their behavior and still get criticized. That's not good incentive for getting people to change.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I agree. I doubt that even Southerners could fix these poor guys.

You get what you pay for. Which is why southerners are valued less by the market than Yankees.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 10:27 AM
 
Location: 80919 Rockrimmon yO!
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So what are you more interested in, what people actually do or their motives? They get critcized and change their behavior and still get criticized. That's not good incentive for getting people to change.

You're missing the point. They're only trying suck up to the public, because they're royal **** ups. I hate ass kissing more than anything.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 03:31 PM
 
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I’d say the American automakers should go straight to Microsoft and ask Bill Gates how he did it with inferior software.
He was able to crush his competition that had a superior product by marketing his lousy product to the decision makers in corporate America. Then somehow he was able to get those that knew that his product was inferior, to work as uncompensated QA slaves to make his junk work and then tell his workers what changes were needed to make it better.
This worked to make Bill Gates the richest man on earth.
Maybe the real plan is to have only one or two auto manufacturers and we are just short of that goal.
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