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Old 04-13-2009, 12:30 PM
 
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Omaha even the folks at VWvortex admit the cars are POS. Fun to drive, but POS. The words "VW" and "reliable" stopped getting put into the same sentence in the mid-90's.

No idea about the late model VW's, not enough is known about their reliability at this point. Personally I think they are young enough that no major problems have happened yet and they are extremely stylish and people like them. You can't point to a 2 year old car and say the reliability is good simply because it's 2 years old. Even 80,000 miles isn't much. To say your car made it to 80,000 miles without anything wrong on it doesn't really mean much.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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Omaha even the folks at VWvortex admit the cars are POS. Fun to drive, but POS. The words "VW" and "reliable" stopped getting put into the same sentence in the mid-90's.

No idea about the late model VW's, not enough is known about their reliability at this point. Personally I think they are young enough that no major problems have happened yet and they are extremely stylish and people like them. You can't point to a 2 year old car and say the reliability is good simply because it's 2 years old. Even 80,000 miles isn't much. To say your car made it to 80,000 miles without anything wrong on it doesn't really mean much.
And for you to say that VWs are junk, because you had one you didn't like, means even less.

In fact, I'll tell ya what... I'll take that "POS" VW off your hands. Just send it over. And since it's such crap, just give it to me. Then I'll make you a deal: If I can't get an easy 100,000 more miles out of it, I'll pay you $2500.00. Fair enough?
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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No thanks I'm selling it here for $3400 after I replace the a/c next week.

You could easily get 100,000 miles out of it provided you dropped a boatload of cash into it, and weren't worried about being stranded. I'm not arguing that you couldn't. I'm arguing that it's not worth it because it's a POS. Why do I think they are POS? Because of how they are made. Because of the components and quality of products that they made them with. Many reasons actually. It's not that I don't dislike the car - far from it - it's a great car, very fun to drive, handles great. Just in comparison to my other car you can tell it is far from a quality automobile.
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Old 04-13-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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No thanks I'm selling it here for $3400 after I replace the a/c next week.

You could easily get 100,000 miles out of it provided you dropped a boatload of cash into it, and weren't worried about being stranded. I'm not arguing that you couldn't. I'm arguing that it's not worth it because it's a POS. Why do I think they are POS? Because of how they are made. Because of the components and quality of products that they made them with. Many reasons actually. It's not that I don't dislike the car - far from it - it's a great car, very fun to drive, handles great. Just in comparison to my other car you can tell it is far from a quality automobile.
Okay... Let me get this straight. It's 13 years old, and you think you can get $3400 out of it. Either you'll be lying to potential buyers or you're eating your own words, because only good cars bring that much, if they're that old.

And like I told you before, comparing a Volvo to a VW is utterly ridiculous. It's no different than me griping about an Escort because it doesn't ride like my dad's Caddy. Plus, if you'd read what I wrote earlier, my son had a Volvo that was an absolute pile of garbage. So should I then assume that Volvos are crap?
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:59 PM
 
Location: phoenix, az
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well guys, i'm hoping to get 100,000 out of my beetle
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I work in the car business, and I can't tell you how many customers have come in like "just get me out of this piece of crap VW please!"
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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Okay... Let me get this straight. It's 13 years old, and you think you can get $3400 out of it. Either you'll be lying to potential buyers or you're eating your own words, because only good cars bring that much, if they're that old.
For one it's 11 years old. For two KBB for my car in fair condition for a private party sale puts it at $4,000. For three a clerk at the auto parts store I visit regularly offered me $3,400 for it even after I told him it burns a quart every 800 miles. So yes I think I can get that.

Here's a pic of the car taken a few months ago:




You can assume what you want. I maintain that VW parts and cars are cheaply made and lack quality. I'm not sure what kind of parts going into Caddys so I can't comment on that. Everything I buy for my Volvo just has that "quality" feel to it vs. the things I buy for my VW just feel "cheap".

I'll be honest, if the car wasn't burning a quart every 800 miles I would have no qualms about driving it another 50k miles. However after doing resserach I've found that there was even a class action lawsuit against VW for excessive oil consumption. So I'm cutting my losses. If I knew how to rebuild engines I might consider driving this one till it explodes and putting another one in, because it's such a fun car to drive.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:35 PM
 
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For one it's 11 years old. For two KBB for my car in fair condition for a private party sale puts it at $4,000. For three a clerk at the auto parts store I visit regularly offered me $3,400 for it even after I told him it burns a quart every 800 miles. So yes I think I can get that.

Here's a pic of the car taken a few months ago:


You can assume what you want. I maintain that VW parts and cars are cheaply made and lack quality. I'm not sure what kind of parts going into Caddys so I can't comment on that. Everything I buy for my Volvo just has that "quality" feel to it vs. the things I buy for my VW just feel "cheap".

I'll be honest, if the car wasn't burning a quart every 800 miles I would have no qualms about driving it another 50k miles. However after doing resserach I've found that there was even a class action lawsuit against VW for excessive oil consumption. So I'm cutting my losses. If I knew how to rebuild engines I might consider driving this one till it explodes and putting another one in, because it's such a fun car to drive.
Very nice car! My second son had one almost identical to that. He sold it only because he was buying his 2002 Jetta.

That said, I'm not going to hassle you any more about your opinion of VWs. I don't agree with you, and that's fine. You're by no means obligated to agree with me.

Have a great day!
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I love my '04 Jetta with the 1.8T! It's been a great car with 115,362 miles on it. Replace the T-belt every 65K, the H2O pump at the same time, and it'll last you a good long while. It is the most fun car I have ever owned...........well, maybe next to my Suzuki Samurai. VWs do have a "cheap" material feel to it though, especially the center arm rest, but love the car none the less. They are getting much better with that material issue, the new ones have an Audi feel to them. Enjoy your car.............take care of it!!!
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Putney VT
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thanks belinda...... i don't know where to take it for this. i've been driving without an airbag for about 3 months now. maybe i'll call another dealer or the volkswagen alternative shop.
I'm sorry to say that Belinda is giving bad info to you. First, it is very very common for the seat belt thing you experienced. Second, the programmed logic of the airbag control computer commands it to set your driver airbag off EVEN IF the signal from the seat belt is missing. You have been driving with the protection of an airbag.
As far as the transmission problem, it will absolutely not be related to low fluid level. I know this because if it was fluid related the problem would always be there and would never change in nature. I suspect the check engine light is illuminated and a code is stored in either the engine control computer or the transmission control computer. The problem will be electrical in nature, i.e. a failing sensor (most probable) or a failing transmission control computer, etc. Codes must be read out and tests run to determine. Take this advice from a German repair specialist: only have someone with PROVEN, reputable experience on German cars work on your rig. These cars are not famous for reliability in my profession and it's only worse when you have someone from an independent shop who is not familiar with German logic mucking around in there.
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