motor trend compares a ford to bmw! (2009, Japanese, credit)

[iTsLiKeAnEgG]

I just prefer getting the best product for my money.

[Gimme3steps]

Originally Posted by Rosinante

It's American made and that's enough for me to put it on top of the list. I prefer to support my neighbors, not some Oriental or European family.

Originally Posted by iTsLiKeAnEgG

I just prefer getting the best product for my money.

LOL Let the games begin.

[iTsLiKeAnEgG]

Originally Posted by Gimme3steps

LOL Let the games begin.

lol, there's no need for games. We have two completely opposite yet valid opinions.

[golfgod]

yachtcare wrote;

Valid points all, no doubt, without any difference in price, the BMW wins hands down. But just what is the price point difference between the Ford and the BMW?

IIRC the SHO is $38K, the BMW is about $54K. Both twin turbo V6, Ford about 350HP, BMW about 305. But as someone else pointed out the Ford is heavier.

golfgod

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by iTsLiKeAnEgG

This new SHO is fast in a straight but several reviews have noted numb steering and poor handling so it's not exactly a BMW. It also weighs more than 4,000lbs and is a full 400lbs heavier than a 5 series. Not exactly the things that dreams are made of. It also had awful brake fade because Ford didn't upgrade the brakes other than adding performance pads. I also don’t find it to be terribly attractive but that’s just my opinion and some may like the way it looks. Every time Ford sticks fender vents on one of their cars it makes the final product look cheaper and tackier than it would have without those stupid vents.

But your average BMW driver's ego and fat arse automatically add 400 lbs to their car's curb weight. And please dont talk about the Ford's looks... BMW has kicked out some of the WORST designs in recent years. Now that Bangle is gone, there might be some hope for the company's designs. I hope.

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by iTsLiKeAnEgG

There are many better alternatives to the SHO in every department even with price taken into account (performance, looks, etc). I'd take a Hyundai Genesis V8 (375HP), Pontiac G8 GXP, Inifniti G37 or BMW 335i over the SHO any day of the week.

Youd pick the Genesis over the SHO? A wanna-be, cheaply built, Infiniti G37 ripoff? The Genesis sedan is nice looking, but the coupe is friggin FUGLY! Looks like a Tiburon rear-ended a G37.

[car54]

Originally Posted by las vegas drunk

I had a 1992 Taurus Sho. Trust me, that car had no problem outrunning ricers. They never knew what hit them.

That's because it WAS a ricer!

That fine Yamaha engine under the hood was made in Japan....

[macroy]

Originally Posted by golfgod

yachtcare wrote;

IIRC the SHO is $38K, the BMW is about $54K. Both twin turbo V6, Ford about 350HP, BMW about 305. But as someone else pointed out the Ford is heavier.

golfgod

Some say the N54 engine is underrated... dyno's done show it putting out 280+ at the wheels. So you're looking at similar HP number assuming Ford's is accurate.

Pricewise - the $54K is pretty well equipped (for the E90 3 series) - the base is around $42 (of course, you'd get very little for that price).

[rubber_factory]

If I remember correctly, they also compared the Lincoln LS to a BMW. That one didn't turn out so well.

[iTsLiKeAnEgG]

Originally Posted by Steve-o

Youd pick the Genesis over the SHO? A wanna-be, cheaply built, Infiniti G37 ripoff? The Genesis sedan is nice looking, but the coupe is friggin FUGLY! Looks like a Tiburon rear-ended a G37.

The Genesis sedan is built to a higher quality standard than the SHO. It has a better looking exterior, damn near best in class interior and comes very well equipped. The Genesis coupe, which I didn't like in photos is actually a great looking car in person. I saw a white one for the first time in person several weeks ago and it looks quite a bit beefier and more aggressive than the pictures ever show. I'm not even sure why you mentioned the Genesis coupe when we're considering sedans here, it should be fairly obvious that I am referring to the Genesis sedan.