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Old 07-03-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Actually, this is a perfect example of how little people know about cars anymore. No dipstick? Fine, get under the car and unscrew the fill plug to check if its full or low. You don't need to pay a mechanic to do that if you're willing to get under the car. How exactly do you think mechanics check the fluid level? They don't use magic, they use the same hands and eyes we all have.
That's still no excuse to why they wont provide a simple dipstick. My '02 Explorer doesn't have a dipstick either, it's the dumbest thing.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I think you are almost completely wrong. I can't explain the tranny dispstick for the 300 - but it's a Chrysler. What do you expect?

A Kia will easily last 10 years with normal maintenance. Cars today don't rust out like they used to. Yes the engines are complex - but they are in general fantastic from top to bottom. If Honda was trying to make me spend more for service, then why do their vehicles require so little?
You can think what you want but you missed my point. Not all new cars as you claim are all that and a bag of chips. Might as well be preaching to me how when Hyundais first came out they were all that.

That's funny how you mentioned Kia, I still remember when those cars were labeled as junk throw away cars from several owners who were overwhelmed with problems.

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Actually, this is a perfect example of how little people know about cars anymore. No dipstick? Fine, get under the car and unscrew the fill plug to check if its full or low. You don't need to pay a mechanic to do that if you're willing to get under the car. How exactly do you think mechanics check the fluid level? They don't use magic, they use the same hands and eyes we all have.
So I guess now when someone wants to do something as minor as check the transmission oil, they need to jack up the car, then crawl under the car, get all dirty, etc....some people, my FIL included are too old to be crawling under a vehicle just to check the fluid level....the fluids that need to be often checked....oil, transmission, brake....should remain as a "pull out the dipstick and check from up above"....or I suppose if the engineers wanted to create a transmission fluid level gauge on the dash similar to the fuel gauge, that would work too.

And how do mechanics check the fluid level? If I had to guess, they probably pour fluid in the hole until it comes out and falls level with the bottom of the filler hole, then cap it off.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Easy, I changed all of those myself.
From the photo you posted, it looks like the engine compartment is somewhat cramped.

Doesn't seem to have the ample room the engine compartments that older cars had.
An example: '66 Plymouth Fury VIP 383...
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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That's funny how you mentioned Kia, I still remember when those cars were labeled as junk throw away cars from several owners who were overwhelmed with problems.
1999 called, they want their misinformed opinions about Kia's back.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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1999 called, they want their misinformed opinions about Kia's back.
Ummm... The early Kias had a LOT of problems. They've made a lot of improvements in the past several years.


This is coming from my friend who is a service/tech supervisor at a Kia dealership here in Omaha.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Ummm... The early Kias had a LOT of problems. They've made a lot of improvements in the past several years.


This is coming from my friend who is a service/tech supervisor at a Kia dealership here in Omaha.
I realize that the very early models had issues but 2000+ was generally a period of massive turn around in quality levels for Kia/Hyundai.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Ummm... The early Kias had a LOT of problems. They've made a lot of improvements in the past several years.


This is coming from my friend who is a service/tech supervisor at a Kia dealership here in Omaha.
Thank you for pointing out what it'slikeanegg didn't understand.
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
From the photo you posted, it looks like the engine compartment is somewhat cramped.

Doesn't seem to have the ample room the engine compartments that older cars had.
An example: '66 Plymouth Fury VIP 383...

i feel like i need a tetnis shot just lookin' at the pic! lol

Mike
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I realize that the very early models had issues but 2000+ was generally a period of massive turn around in quality levels for Kia/Hyundai.
I know someone who bought a new Kia Rio in 2003 (gawd that thing was ugly), in less than two years nearly all of the paint on the hood and roof was missing, and it also had many mechanical problems that the dealer didn't want to fix under warranty. She had to threaten to use the Florida lemon law to get them to fix her problems. It's unacceptable for a car that new to have that many problems and look like a 20 year old beater. That Kia looked worse than the 1990 Buick Century that she traded for it.
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Kia=Daewoo
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