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Old 09-25-2009, 09:08 PM
 
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You thank (primarily) General Motors for that. The idiots with that 350 Oldsmobile V8 with different heads & an injector pump... Basically, they screwed it for Diesel-powered cars in the United States.

That has always surprised me....that GM would foolishly try to "dieselize" a gas engine. Surprising because GM built some of the finest diesels ever from the 30's until they sold Detroit Diesel some years ago. That Jimmy 2-stroke diesel was legendary....make that IS legendary...ther's lots of 'em still running!

Like the pair of 12V-71TI Detroits in my charter fishing boat....760 shaft horsepower each. They are 1972 motors with over 10,000 hours, that have never been majored.

We go after the big ones 100+ miles out in the Atlantic and they've never let us down!
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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yeah the only diesel cars I see on the roads are the vw golf and jetta TDI's
Pickups too... they are cheaper to run than the gassers.
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Pickups too... they are cheaper to run than the gassers.
yeah there a tons of trucks but not many diesel cas but a car with cummins diesel 750 ft-lbs of torque would be fun
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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Having driven a 2003 VW Jetta for the last 6 years getting 43.6mpg and higher. Going 700 miles between fillups. Not having expensive batteries that will eventually fail, costing more to replace than the car is worth, thus rendering the car useless. I can't think of any reason to continue wasting my time on this diesel technology.
Every time I talk to another TDI owner we just laugh at all those hybred owners that bought all the hype about mileage only to find out that the real world mileage isn't as advertised.
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Old 09-26-2009, 04:08 PM
 
Location: SW France
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yeah there a tons of trucks but not many diesel cas but a car with cummins diesel 750 ft-lbs of torque would be fun
The V10 Touareg diesel from VW has 590lb/ft torque.

Here's a video showing the diesel VW keeping pace with a Cayenne Turbo.

The VW diesel is further away from the camera. At least it shows that modern diesels can keep up with petrol, and indeed are better at overtaking speeds due to better torque.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6Fc...eature=related

I've had a turbo diesel BMW station wagon and the mid range performance was very good.

Also on a sedate run, doing around 60mph on the motorwayto Scotland, I was getting around 50mpg (UK gallon- about 40mpg US gallon).
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Old 09-26-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I'd buy a diesel auto in a minute if they brought them out for us on the dealers lots.
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Proud owner of a 2009 VW Jetta TDI.

This was my first diesel car and I'll never buy a gasser again (except for my Mustang GT - pleasure car).

Currently at 5000 miles and getting 39.1mpg. I've been told that it takes up to 15,000 miles for a diesel to break in and once that does I can expect 42-45mpg if not better.

This car is also fun to drive with the 6 speed manual.

Americans would buy them IF the car manufacturers would make them properly and not like the old American diesels of the 70/80's.

Very little noise compared to the old diesels and absolutely no smell.

BTW...My Jetta my named 2009 Green Car of the Year and I'm far from a tree hugger.
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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my dad drive a 07 dodge ram 3500 6.7 are you not supposed to run them really hard to break them in?
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:17 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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my dad drive a 07 dodge ram 3500 6.7 are you not supposed to run them really hard to break them in?
Yes. I was told to drive them like you stole them.
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Yes. I was told to drive them like you stole them.
yeah the saleman told him the same thing I guess I am used to gas engines.
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