Originally Posted by hoffdano
But talk to someone with a RAV4 or 4Runner, Tundra, Tacoma and you will probably find a very happy owner.
RAV4? Funny you mention that. Not too long ago my brother did a trans job on one (auto). Not only was the trans ridiculously expensive to replace (blew at 85K miles), but was THEE SINGLE BIGGEST PAIN IN THE ARSE TO DO. He told me that if someone offered him 10 grand to do another trans on a RAV4, he'd turn em down and **** in their face.
And while on the subject of Hyundai, we have one ourselves. We bought a GLS V6 Sonata new in 2001. As of right now it has 118K miles on it and is doing semi-ok. Had it not been for their warranty, I would have blown the car up a long time ago. Their warrantys are so good because without em? Youre broke as a joke!!!! Therehas been a laundry list of problems with our Hyundai, which started 2 weeks after taking delivery of it. Ready?
1. Dash squeak. Was the pocket below the radio that was squeaking. THeir solution? Double sided tape.
Whatever, it worked.
2. Pulling out of the dealer after they fixed the squeak, we noticed a 6" scratch down the right side of the center console. We turned right around, grabbed the loaner right back, had to wait another 3 days to get the piece replaced.
3. Put on the defroster one frigid night to hear the belt snap and furiously flail about the engine bay. 1.5 hours later the tow truck shows up. Takes it to a Hyundai dealer in Rockford, IL (we lived near Oregon, IL at the time).
4. The culprit was a siezed A/C compressor bearing. BElt was riding around a siezed pulley and ripped apart. Hyundai tried to charge me $300 to fix. HA! I told them to stick it where the sun dont shine and fix our new car or else. They called back an hour later and said "its under warranty", we'll have it ready in 2 days. Come in for a loaner car. The dealer didnt have loaner cars so I had to get shuttled, along with 3 other unhappy Hyundai owners, down the street to a used car dealer that loaned out used cars to the dealers' customers.
I got a fancy schmancy Ford Taurus that had more ashes in it than Mt. St. Helens. Im not a happy camper at this point.
5. 2 days later the dealer calls me, tells me the car is ready. I go up there, deal with the used car dealer to return my loaner car, get shuttled back to the dealer, and yada, yada, yada. Go outside, fire her up, hit the defroster button, car dies. I slam the door so hard Im surprised I didnt shower myself with glass.
I go back in, give em Hell, get shuttled back to the used car dealer and back into the Taurus. Get car back next day, fixed. ooooh ahhhh
6. Car starts humming. Bad front hub bearing #1 greets me not-so-gently. Fixed under warranty.
7. Two months later, the other bearing goes up front. Why the dealer didnt replace both while it was in there is beyond me. Anyways, another loaner, another bearing covered under warranty.
8. Airbag light pops on. Dealer clears it, states its a "glitch". Whatever.
9. Trans starts shifting weird at 50K miles. Fluid changed, jump in the car, floor it, hear a BANG! followed by a CEL. WOO HOO! No idea what it was. Had a friend clear the code. Hmmm
10. Right front hub bearing goes bad. Again. Another trip to the dealer.
11. Upon turning the wheel, the car would hop. A tire developed a huge flat spot, the belts caved in apparently. While the dealer had the car in the air for the tire/vibration problem, they noticed the drivers side bearing is going. I mean, really!?!?!?!?!?!?! Replaced another bearing!!!!
12. Brakes. I thought GM was bad with brakes. 4 sets on this car in 115K miles. Unreal. And getting them off? HA! Good luck my friends!
13. Then the rear hub bearings (both) decide they want to join the party. Both replaced under warranty. THis is getting ridiculous.
By now Im out of warranty and thats when the crap REALLY starts to suck!
14. Believe it or not, right front hub bearing goes bad.
Take it to my friend's garage for some help (Im no mechanic haha). Inside the hub, Hyundai uses basically a gigantic snap ring, that had welded itself to the hub. 4 hours of cutting it out with a torch, piece-by-piece, before we could get the old bearing out. No hardware stores carry snap rings this big. A trip to Hyundai to get this specialty item was in order. Lucky us!
15. Rear window regulator (d/s) goes kaput. I dont have the cash to get a new regulator and have it installed. So in the meantime, the window is rigged to stay up. Its inoperable, but its up.
16. The windshield wiper motor eats fuses. Several of them.
17. Tabs on right rear taillight broke somehow. New taillight is on order, water is getting in the trunk now because the only thing keeping it in is the trunk itself (when closed). Open the trunk and the light falls out, held in only by its harness. Thats always classy having to open the trunk and grab the taillight before it damages the harness! WOOT WOOT
18. Now as of yesterday the wife reports to me that there is a grinding sound from the passenger front. How much you wanna bet that, you guessed it, a HUB BEARING needs replacement! Shock!
At least we have a spare gigantor snap ring, we picked up an extra at the dealer because this car goes through hub bearings like Rosie O Donnell goes through a box of cookies. Im about to bend Hyundai's CEO over his desk and shove one of these dang hub bearings where the sun dont shine!
19. 2 days ago the gear indicator lights on the center console are out. Probably a simple fuse. I hope.
We've had the car 8 years now, and there is some rust beginning to pop up in plaes. Oh, the wheels. COMPLETE CRAP!!!! Clearcoat chipped off and the wheels rusted after 3 years. The wife doesnt care, but I do. And replacing plugs and wires on this car? Yeah, not fun. Not fun at all. Its a FWD V6, you can imagine.