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Put a set of slicks on that Super Snake and let the GT-R look at tail lights for a quarter of a mile. Been around racing my whole life and have seen it too many times. AWD is good for the street, but the advantage is gone on the track against a RWD Super Snake, or any other car with real power and slicks.
Yeah, and you just made my point why the GTR rocks compared to the Mustang. On the street, the GTR triumphs, and there can be no denying that. 0-80 is what is going to matter on the street. Who cares about the track anyways since most people will never go to it.. When I am going to work and running errands, the Nissan is going to be the much better car day to day by far.
I watched the video and honestly it is a perfect example of why AWD is so hard to beat on street tires. The mustang would probably win from a roll, but from a dead stop on stock tires the GTR will win every time.
Put a set of slicks on that Super Snake and let the GT-R look at tail lights for a quarter of a mile. Been around racing my whole life and have seen it too many times. AWD is good for the street, but the advantage is gone on the track against a RWD Super Snake, or any other car with real power and slicks.
But if you put slicks, or even Street legal semi slicks on the GT-R it'll still easily outrun the supersnake on a track (and by track I mean something with corners). It just doesn't have the suspension and chassis to deal with the GT-R.
The GT-R is also a far better allrounder, it's 0.3 of a second slower than the ZR1 around Nürnbergring, both on stock tires (confirmed times), but where the ZR1 is widely known (atleast ourside USA) to not be a good day to day car (chassis works on track not comfy on road), the GT-R could be used by your grandmother to and from the shops.
And if you want to go REALLY fast in this, it still takes a lot of skills. Yes, the gizmos makes it easier for the average joe to go faster, but the laws of physics still apply, and balancing on the edge, takes as much skill in a GT-R as in a SS or ZR1 or any other car.
Yeah, and you just made my point why the GTR rocks compared to the Mustang. On the street, the GTR triumphs, and there can be no denying that. 0-80 is what is going to matter on the street. Who cares about the track anyways since most people will never go to it.. When I am going to work and running errands, the Nissan is going to be the much better car day to day by far.
Well if your going to look at it "practically", your generally going to start racing from a roll... Mustang is gonna pull much harder than the GTR while rolling. Thats what the Mustang is meant for, just brute power, hit the gas and GOOO. The GTR does not have the punch that the Mustang does however it handles better.
But if you put slicks, or even Street legal semi slicks on the GT-R it'll still easily outrun the supersnake on a track (and by track I mean something with corners). It just doesn't have the suspension and chassis to deal with the GT-R.
The GT-R is also a far better allrounder, it's 0.3 of a second slower than the ZR1 around Nürnbergring, both on stock tires (confirmed times), but where the ZR1 is widely known (atleast ourside USA) to not be a good day to day car (chassis works on track not comfy on road), the GT-R could be used by your grandmother to and from the shops.
And if you want to go REALLY fast in this, it still takes a lot of skills. Yes, the gizmos makes it easier for the average joe to go faster, but the laws of physics still apply, and balancing on the edge, takes as much skill in a GT-R as in a SS or ZR1 or any other car.
the mustang would work as a daily too there are alot of GT's so beside the GT500 being a bit lower and a stiffer suspension it should pretty easy to drive around town plus you got to love that supercharger whine
But if you put slicks, or even Street legal semi slicks on the GT-R it'll still easily outrun the supersnake on a track (and by track I mean something with corners). It just doesn't have the suspension and chassis to deal with the GT-R.
The GT-R is also a far better allrounder, it's 0.3 of a second slower than the ZR1 around Nürnbergring, both on stock tires (confirmed times), but where the ZR1 is widely known (atleast ourside USA) to not be a good day to day car (chassis works on track not comfy on road), the GT-R could be used by your grandmother to and from the shops.
And if you want to go REALLY fast in this, it still takes a lot of skills. Yes, the gizmos makes it easier for the average joe to go faster, but the laws of physics still apply, and balancing on the edge, takes as much skill in a GT-R as in a SS or ZR1 or any other car.
Wrong about the slicks on a AWD. It just doesn't make the dramatic difference on an AWD like it does on a RWD car. Mustang is a strait line car, and the two were compared in the video on a drag strip.
Wrong about the slicks on a AWD. It just doesn't make the dramatic difference on an AWD like it does on a RWD car. Mustang is a strait line car, and the two were compared in the video on a drag strip.
You speak the truth. In a straight line, it will not make a difference on a stock power GTR. I had a previous gen GTR which suffered from too much grip and typically bogged off the line. Slicks for most AWDs that lack crazy power are more of a road course thing.
Its beating a dead horse a little, but I just can't take an expensive mustang seriously. The GT is a decent car, but until they can through in some proper suspension and bring the chassis up a few notches, it just is not in the same league no matter how much power or extras you add. On paper it puts down some good numbers, but the reality of driving the two is different.
You speak the truth. In a straight line, it will not make a difference on a stock power GTR. I had a previous gen GTR which suffered from too much grip and typically bogged off the line. Slicks for most AWDs that lack crazy power are more of a road course thing.
Its beating a dead horse a little, but I just can't take an expensive mustang seriously. The GT is a decent car, but until they can through in some proper suspension and bring the chassis up a few notches, it just is not in the same league no matter how much power or extras you add. On paper it puts down some good numbers, but the reality of driving the two is different.
I belive the ford still uses the old 8.8 solid axel the only time ford had fully independant suspension was the cobra
I belive the ford still uses the old 8.8 solid axel the only time ford had fully independant suspension was the cobra
This is why Mustang's will never be taken seriously as sports cars until Ford develops a mass market product with a fully independent suspension. Current Mustang's make good power, look good (subjective, some don't like the redesigned rear end) and finally have a decent interior but they don't have the hardware necessary to perform well on a track with curves.
I belive the ford still uses the old 8.8 solid axel the only time ford had fully independant suspension was the cobra
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On the street, the GTR triumphs, and there can be no denying that. 0-80 is what is going to matter on the street. Who cares about the track anyways since most people will never go to it.. When I am going to work and running errands, the Nissan is going to be the much better car day to day by far.
