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Old 12-26-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Haha, next it will be headlight fluid.


To: All Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealers
Subject: COMING SOON - Motorcraft Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF)

The following information is provided to prepare Dealerships for the launch of the new 6.7L Diesel engine in the 2011 F-Super Duty. A more detailed communication will be released in January, 2010 once the new Motorcraft Diesel Exhaust Fluid is released for ordering.

WHAT IS DEF?
A non-hazardous clear fluid (67% deionized water / 33% chemically pure Urea) that is injected into the diesel exhaust system to reduce NOx emissions.

WHY DEF?

Required for the 2011 model year F-Super Duty 6.7L Ford diesel to meet 2010 EPA emission regulations
For use with competitive make vehicles using a SCR (selective catalytic reduction) system
The majority of diesel (light and heavy duty) manufacturers will use DEF to meet the new requirements
PART ORDERING
A communication will be sent in early January to announce product ordering details. In general:

DEF is a supplier direct ship product, similar to Motorcraft Coolant & Refrigerant
Dealers can order product directly or through their facing Ford Authorized Distributors
FADs will have product by late January (prior to dealers receiving vehicles)

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Old 12-26-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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yes ford and dodge are going to be using pee to make it through the new EPA emission regulations Its a form of blutec it will be on everything diesel from tractors to heavy equipment. I think its slated to be legislated in within 3 years. I know the trucking companies are already buying there tractors with blutec as of now.

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Old 12-27-2009, 12:25 AM
 
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Mercedes and BMW have had versions of this for a few years now. Its a fluid tank the dealership fills every year or so.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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Just gotta luv it !!
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:24 PM
 
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Commonly known as BlueTec.

Is this only in America? America hates diesel.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:42 AM
 
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Not all American's hate diesels, I for one am a huge fan of them. Just not a huge fan of all the emissions controls that are on the newer ones. The majority of the US doesn't seem to like them though, and will like them even less when you tell them you have to add urine to them or they won't run.
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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Commonly known as BlueTec.

Is this only in America? America hates diesel.
The market for heavy trucks and equipment that will use Blue Tec is larger than most car drivers realize. Not looking forward to having to do something ELSE when I refuel the big truck...
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:19 AM
 
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The market for heavy trucks and equipment that will use Blue Tec is larger than most car drivers realize. Not looking forward to having to do something ELSE when I refuel the big truck...
I feel for you guys.. how much does the DPF's hurt the big diesels economy ? Do they even have the systems worked out ? I hear a lot of bad things about them.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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To meet 2010 emissions regulations, manufacturers are forced to lower emissions, which is done by 1 of 2 ways... the use of Urea or through selective catalytic reduction (SCR). IMO, SCR is a much easier and cleaner option, and doesnt require nearly as much equipment as trucks wanting to run Urea. Im surprised Ford is going to use Urea rather than SCR.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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I feel for you guys.. how much does the DPF's hurt the big diesels economy ? Do they even have the systems worked out ? I hear a lot of bad things about them.
Well I have a 2007 Duramax, the last year before the DPF. I average around 17-18 mpg stock, with my tune in I'll get around 19. My friend has a 2009 with the DPF and he averages around 15. So yes, they do hurt quite a bit. Put it this way, I won't be getting rid of my 07 anytime soon!!
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