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Old 01-29-2010, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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no, they're taking the steps enforced on them by US law.

so, as of this morning, Toyota says they have a fix. supposedly, they're going to install a shim somewhere in the pedal mechanism that will alleviate the issue. but something about this still stinks. read this:

Fixes being cranked out in massive Toyota recall - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100128/ap_on_bi_ge/toyota_recall - broken link)

is it just me, or does the way Toyota describes the root cause make it sound like they're claiming the pedal is somehow physically attached to the throttle?

Mike
That article plays along with the "blame CTS" idea. Yet someone here posted about some of these cars having Denso parts instead. Where is that info?
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Anyone that needs to practice putting their car in neutral or applying the brakes shouldn't be driving to begin with.
Any time someone has to suggest this about a car it says that the car is unsafe to drive.
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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That article plays along with the "blame CTS" idea.
yeah, i feel real bad for CTS right now. Toyota really seems to want to throw them under the bus.

Mike
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:56 AM
 
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Any time someone has to suggest this about a car it says that the car is unsafe to drive.
It was a rediculous statement to begin with, it says nothing about the car, it says volumes about the skill of the average driver on the road though.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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Forget about getting out of the lease. It ant goin to happen. The salesman that made money off of you has already spent the money. lol

I love how you take the opportunity to take a low-blow shot at a salesman for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and for something that has nothing to do with him in the first place.

And people think salesman are the jerks.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:59 AM
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As the youngins call it. "Player Hating" .

And you're right, what happened to Toyota did not make domestics any better. Some people don't understand the difference. Poor souls.
I should have made myself more clear. What I'm trying to say is that there is still a lingering myth that a "quality gap" exists between the modern cars produced by Japanese OEMs and Ford. (Notice I did not say GM or Chrysler, their quality still leaves much to be desired) It's sad, but sometimes the only thing that will start to get rid of theses myths are one of the many quality blunders from Toyota like these.
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Of course, Ford couldn't have done it without Mazda...
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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Of course, Ford couldn't have done it without Mazda...
couldn't have done WHAT without Mazda?

Mike
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:19 AM
 
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i think for a lot of owners its not a matter of "how easy is it to do" (the instructions to stop the car) but if and when they have to do it will they be in a safe place or have presence of mind enough to do it safely if driving their children around

no matter what some owners think or don't think about the procedure, you gotta admit when initially buying the car if part of the sales pitch was:

"oh and btw, a very slight chance exist of your car accelerating on its own. whether this happens on a deserted highway or a busy freeway at rush hour, immediately throw the car in neutral and roll to a complete stop. its all there in the owners manual"

obviously, that would be a deal breaker. i wouldn't buy that car. but many people did. they just got those wacky instructions afterward. so, some are a bit concerned
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:42 AM
 
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It was a rediculous statement to begin with, it says nothing about the car, it says volumes about the skill of the average driver on the road though.

I agree... safe or not a driver needs to be prepared for the unexpected at all times.
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