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Old 01-30-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Instead of all the slinging, do any of you have any reasonable thoughts on what someone should do w/a 3 mo. old 2010 Corolla that IS your car?
I would do nothing until you are contacted by the dealer. Why get rid of a perfectly good car that you just bought?
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Rules don't apply when you are defending yourself. You obviously had to purposefully search for this in your lame quest to intentionally start a fight. You aren't getting a fight from me. Let it go! Have a nice life.
Defending yourself? Please. Not starting a fight, just pointing out your feeble attempts to make yourself look like a good guy. You claim that others get to name calling when that is all you do. So please get a life your self. I'm done.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:28 PM
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Steve's right about Toyota sales people. I'm not sure how they are all around the country, but here in SE Michigan they have a stick up their a**. Oh, what a blessing it is to be able to be in a showroom with such beautiful Japanese appliances....

I remember when I was in college and looking for a daily driver. The dealer wanted a large deposit from me just to test drive an MR2 spider, of all cars. Drove straight to the Ford dealership and bought a Mustang GT. Maybe I should visit the dealership in my Lotus and say hi to all of the wonderful, upstanding salespeople there.

Believe it or not, the sales staff at the Lotus/Lamborghini dealerships have been way more helpful and open than any crappy Toyota/Lexus dealer. Probably they're smart enough to know that just because you're young doesn't necessarily mean you can't afford their vehicles.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I once got just the opposite from a GM dealer. My local toyota dealer are very nice and helpful. Our local GM dealer are a bunch of arrogant fools. It all depends on the dealership and its owner.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Steve's right about Toyota sales people. I'm not sure how they are all around the country, but here in SE Michigan they have a stick up their a**. Oh, what a blessing it is to be able to be in a showroom with such beautiful Japanese appliances....

I remember when I was in college and looking for a daily driver. The dealer wanted a large deposit from me just to test drive an MR2 spider, of all cars. Drove straight to the Ford dealership and bought a Mustang GT. Maybe I should visit the dealership in my Lotus and say hi to all of the wonderful, upstanding salespeople there.

Believe it or not, the sales staff at the Lotus/Lamborghini dealerships have been way more helpful and open than any crappy Toyota/Lexus dealer. Probably they're smart enough to know that just because you're young doesn't necessarily mean you can't afford their vehicles.

That's exactly what I am talking about and I have experienced the same attitude in both New Jersey and Tennessee. They make you feel like you should be honored to be in their presence when it should be the other way around, since you are the customer.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:51 PM
 
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That's exactly what I am talking about and I have experienced the same attitude in both New Jersey and Tennessee. They make you feel like you should be honored to be in their presence when it should be the other way around, since you are the customer.
This is EXACTLY the feeling I got from the GMC dealership with my "Shaker Sierra" They knew I was a dedicated GM owner and all they wanted was for me to spend more money to replace the "Bad/Recall vehicle" with another one of their poorly concieved/constructed/new vehicle. Yeah, that was 10 years ago and the the way I was treated by the GM Dealership and GM, after arbitration, Guess what!!!???
They told me, in the long run, live with your "Shaker Steering GMC" It is the "nature" of the truck. My '97 GMC drove like a Cadillac, My '99 drove like the front tires were out of balance and the alinement was way off. And the dealer would still tell me that was the best they could do.
WTF!!!???
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Old 01-30-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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I find those GM commercials with Howie Long to be probably the single most arrogant commercials made in recent years. Yeah a Malibu gets 1MPG more than the Civic, but see how that helps you when the thing is all loose and falling apart at 100K.
I find GM dealers to be the worst so far as far as what your talking about.
I laugh, then change the channel. No GM commercial on earth would make me trade any of my cars for one of theirs. Not happening.

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I'm sure you heard GM is offering rebates/incentives for people with Toyota's. What do you think of this? Not only do I think it's kind of a sleezy move, but I don't think it's a good deal for Toyota owners,believe me, I checked, I own a 07 Camry lol. There going to want to make there money, you'll end up getting screwed anyway, that just my opinion. What are your thoughts?
A broken Toyota is better than a running GM car, for me..

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You'll end up losing money if you take this deal cause they will never pay you for what your car is truly worth.
Trading in would be stupid at best.

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Yep.Now that they have found the accelerators made by Denos in japna don't have the problem ;just oens with teh ones made here in the Indiana suppier ;it shouldn't take long to correct.But the G needs all the help they can getin the sales dept looking at them compared to Ford.In the end I really thnik honda will get some of teh toyotas sales until its cleared up.
I think so too. Honda and Hyundai may benefit the most. Good thing, the economy's a bit slow, so people aren't actually rushing through dealership doors anyways. Toyota should get their asses to work, and get this taken care of ASAP. I'm still thinking some drive by wire issue.

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There are some customers that will never come back, but there are others who are taking a second look after many years of absence.
And there are some who never owned Domestic cars, yours truly . My father bought a few domestics when I was a kid, and stopped in the early 80s. My mother never owned an American car, mostly European, then Japanese. None of their kids ever owned an American car, by example.

That's 5 of us, and many many cars between us 5 through the years. You don't miss what you never had.

I will agree that Ford has improved. Renting a Ford ten years ago, and one now. Big difference. Dodge, still the same ****.. Chevy, so so. But I still wouldn't buy any. There's no reason to, there are too many options out there. CIAO!
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:37 PM
 
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In 2006, only 45% of people polled said they would consider buying a Ford. In 2009, that number was up to 63%. That is a significant improvement and shows that if you continue to improve upon quality, people will begin to take notice.
Ford has some good products. However, I would not attribute the sudden increase in popularity to a sudden rise in quality or more exciting product. Much of it can be attributed to Ford's decision NOT to accept the bailout funds. I have a number of friends who own GM and Chrysler who are now Ford fans.

As for me, I bought a Corolla in 1997 for $14k when the best "deal" I could get on an equivalently equipped Ford Focus was over $16k. No regret over that decision.
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:38 AM
 
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As for me, I bought a Corolla in 1997 for $14k when the best "deal" I could get on an equivalently equipped Ford Focus was over $16k. No regret over that decision.
The Focus wasn't produced in 1997.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:12 AM
 
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The Focus wasn't produced in 1997.
Agreed, 1997 was still a Ford Escort. The Focus was not introduced until 2000.
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