Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-14-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Earth
4,237 posts, read 24,688,387 times
Reputation: 2274

Advertisements

As some might know, some car door windows are framed and some are not.

If you've never noticed this, some cars such as Camaros and Firebirds do not have a frame that goes around their windows....unlike most cars made today such as 4 doors.

Maybe it's me but it seems frame less windowed doors are more susceptible to wind noise when rolled up....and I believe are also more prone to breaking and entering...??

But on the other hand, have a little bit of a cleaner look to them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-14-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
44,878 posts, read 59,846,876 times
Reputation: 60419
GM started that back in the late 60s/early 70s, anyway. The other companies followed suit. It then went away on most cars. They were easier to break into and the stripping was a pain to maintain. Early versions seemed to crumble away after a couple years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
3,306 posts, read 12,148,273 times
Reputation: 2966
Subaru does this on their vehicles... not sure about the very latest ones.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2010, 01:52 PM
 
1,742 posts, read 6,106,646 times
Reputation: 737
Convertibles, hardtops, and t-tops says frameless is better
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
5,994 posts, read 19,878,204 times
Reputation: 4078
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Continental View Post
Convertibles, hardtops, and t-tops says frameless is better
It would be incredibly visually awkward to drive a roofless car with your windows down yet still have the frames remain.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2010, 06:43 PM
 
1,742 posts, read 6,106,646 times
Reputation: 737
Which some Broncos, and I belive other stuff like Blazers, Scouts, and CJs might have.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-14-2010, 10:13 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
3,306 posts, read 12,148,273 times
Reputation: 2966
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Continental View Post
Which some Broncos, and I belive other stuff like Blazers, Scouts, and CJs might have.
This is true.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-15-2010, 02:44 PM
 
3,743 posts, read 13,630,423 times
Reputation: 2787
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lux Hauler View Post
Subaru does this on their vehicles... not sure about the very latest ones.
Subaru just stopped this with the 2010 Legacy.

Frameless doors are lighter, but are known to allow more wind noise as the rubber seals age and tear. They can also add to the rigidity of the car. Its also a bit easier to get into a car through a frameless window since the seal at the top is soft, but most criminals prefer to smash and grap rather than waste time jimmying a lock anymore.

I think they look good but you only really see them on convertibles any more.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-15-2010, 02:58 PM
 
4,923 posts, read 11,140,236 times
Reputation: 3320
Maybe it's just me and a faulty memory, but it seems that I had more problems with windows refusing to crank, falling in, or getting bound up and stuck half-up/half-down on frameless windows than framed windows.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-15-2010, 03:12 PM
 
Location: NY
9,131 posts, read 19,866,675 times
Reputation: 11706
I have owned a few cars with frameless windows over the years. Each one eventually developed minor leak issues as the weatherstrip aged some. Nothing too major, but also something I have not experienced to that degree with framed car windows.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top