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View Poll Results: How do you feel about buying GM?
Less likely now, because of bailout 11 16.42%
Less likely now, because of economy 1 1.49%
More likely now, to show support 3 4.48%
More likely, just because I like the cars 20 29.85%
I wouldn't buy GM regardless 32 47.76%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-30-2010, 02:20 PM
 
Location: silver springs
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GM has bad business managers....if they were so good at what they do, why would they EVER need a bailout?.....cant trust a company that has been stumbling for sooooo many years....union guys need to take a serious pay cut to stay working or lose their jobs to Canada...The End
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Acres
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Unions have needed pay and benefit cuts for years. Did you know that not too far back, $1500.00 of every new GM went to healthcare benefits? WTF?? Any untrained high school dropout would gladly use a robot to hang a bumper and wait for someone else to install the bolts and someone else to start the nuts and someone else to tighten them... for $15.00/hr instead of $25.00 or more... people are conditioned to pay what they're paying for vehicles now, so gm could lower prices some, and still make more money... fire the unions
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Unions have needed pay and benefit cuts for years. Did you know that not too far back, $1500.00 of every new GM went to healthcare benefits? WTF?? Any untrained high school dropout would gladly use a robot to hang a bumper and wait for someone else to install the bolts and someone else to start the nuts and someone else to tighten them... for $15.00/hr instead of $25.00 or more... people are conditioned to pay what they're paying for vehicles now, so gm could lower prices some, and still make more money... fire the unions
I agree 100%. I still think a lot of the fault with GM rest on the shoulders of the UAW. GM had it the worst as far as the UAW goes. Billions of dollars a year in retiree benefits is just insane. Imagine the powerhouse GM would be today if it wasn't for the Unions.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I agree 100%. I still think a lot of the fault with GM rest on the shoulders of the UAW. GM had it the worst as far as the UAW goes. Billions of dollars a year in retiree benefits is just insane. Imagine the powerhouse GM would be today if it wasn't for the Unions.
Unions mean well, but they have gotten too much power and their demands on companies these days are ridiculous

Chrysler is very big with the UAW as well. I met a Chrysler employee the other day who was part of the UAW, nice guy

When I was in Vegas two weeks ago I was visiting a grocery store off the strip in the suburbs, the cashiers there make $16 an hour! because of unions

When I told them that back in Florida I only made $9.15 an hour they had this horrid look on their face as if to say "I would NEVER let myself get that low"

Unions are too powerful, and in today's times unnecessary. But at the same time companies shouldn't be able to treat their workers however they want to the point of abuse

Unions are a catch-22 IMO
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:32 PM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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I agree 100%. I still think a lot of the fault with GM rest on the shoulders of the UAW. GM had it the worst as far as the UAW goes. Billions of dollars a year in retiree benefits is just insane. Imagine the powerhouse GM would be today if it wasn't for the Unions.
It's enough to make a grown man cry.
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Full time RV"er
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I definitely agree. It would be nice if American cars went back to looking and feeling like American cars.

Make cars with some rear overhang (although the Lincoln Town Car does have that). Make some cars with real chrome and whitewall tires. Make a true full-sized Cadillac and stop calling the mid-sized ones "full-sized." And try to minimize the alphabet-soup models ("CTS," "DTS," etc).
Thats exactly how i feel too! so I just came back from a trip to North Dakota. I went there to buy myself a new Chevy truck, well its new to me
( a 1935 pickup , 6cyl. 3 speed). I figure it lasted this long sitting in the field , with a little TLC I might get another 20 or 30 yrs. out of it. Driving it is going to be a little different though. No power windows , power steering, power brakes, but then that will be less to worry about having to repair. Who says GM didn't make good cars and trucks at one time. Oh yea, i got the wife a new convertible too while I was there ( well just like mine,it will be new to her). Its a 1922 Hudson phaeton, 7 passenger. Little TLC on hers also and we will be ready to head for the beach . Got to love a well madeAmerican automobile.

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Old 04-01-2010, 01:24 AM
 
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I want the phaeton!
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Thats exactly how i feel too! so I just came back from a trip to North Dakota. I went there to buy myself a new Chevy truck, well its new to me
( a 1935 pickup , 6cyl. 3 speed). I figure it lasted this long sitting in the field , with a little TLC I might get another 20 or 30 yrs. out of it. Driving it is going to be a little different though. No power windows , power steering, power brakes, but then that will be less to worry about having to repair. Who says GM didn't make good cars and trucks at one time. Oh yea, i got the wife a new convertible too while I was there ( well just like mine,it will be new to her). Its a 1922 Hudson phaeton, 7 passenger. Little TLC on hers also and we will be ready to head for the beach . Got to love a well madeAmerican automobile.
Congrats on your "new" truck.

I sometimes see a 1930s or 1940s truck at the weekly car gathering and they do get a lot of attention.
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