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Old 03-29-2010, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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An Ohio man is trying to beat a speeding ticket through an unusual defense: claiming that his cell phone's GPS records show he was driving under the speed limit.

Jason Barnes received two points on his license and a $35 fine for allegedly driving 84 mph in a 65 mph portion of Interstate 75 in March 2009.

Police Blotter: GPS used to fight speeding ticket | Politics and Law - CNET News
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:12 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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What the hell kind of nutty place only fines you $35 for that kind of speed violation?
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Is GPS really that accurate now that it can be used as a defense in court? I thought they were off by a wide enough margin that using it to judge speed is futile and a waste of time.
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Old 03-29-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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An Ohio man is trying to beat a speeding ticket through an unusual defense: claiming that his cell phone's GPS records show he was driving under the speed limit.

Jason Barnes received two points on his license and a $35 fine for allegedly driving 84 mph in a 65 mph portion of Interstate 75 in March 2009.

Police Blotter: GPS used to fight speeding ticket | Politics and Law - CNET News
I want to move to Ohio, In California that's a 300 dollar fine.
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Is GPS really that accurate now that it can be used as a defense in court? I thought they were off by a wide enough margin that using it to judge speed is futile and a waste of time.
It's probably accurate enough to at least rebut the presumption that the officer's testimony is accurate. The problem is, the courts are under no obligation to assume it's accurate enough and so far no court has. Its accuracy needs to be proven to the court's satisfaction before it can be used as a defense. So far nobody has done so.
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What the hell kind of nutty place only fines you $35 for that kind of speed violation?
The fine is only $35 but then "court costs" are another $100. Then it's probably another $100 for "supervision" to keep the points off your driving abstract.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Way on the outskirts of LA LA land.
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It's probably accurate enough to at least rebut the presumption that the officer's testimony is accurate. The problem is, the courts are under no obligation to assume it's accurate enough and so far no court has. Its accuracy needs to be proven to the court's satisfaction before it can be used as a defense. So far nobody has done so.
What about "proving" the accuracy of the officer's testimony? How is that accomplished to the court's satisfaction?
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What about "proving" the accuracy of the officer's testimony? How is that accomplished to the court's satisfaction?
The accuracy instruments typically used in speed enforcement have been demonstrated to virtually all courts' satisfaction to be sufficiently accurate. The exception is a small handful of courts have not accepted LIDAR to be sufficiently accurate. The number of courts that do not accept LIDAR as evidence is shrinking to near zero.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:50 PM
 
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They will take the cops word for it, which is stupid
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Old 04-01-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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I believe I'd read about similar cases using GPS and teen driving tracking programs to prove innocence, but the defense was not allowed and the driver was convicted of the ticket.
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