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Old 08-22-2014, 12:40 PM
 
Location: London
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3.5L V6 is a sweet spot.

I feel sorry for our euro trash friends who have to live daily with their gutless 1.2L buzz boxes LOL
This the American indoctrination I am on about. The corporations marketing men have really got at you all.
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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But a hell of lot with massive overlarge engines.

I have driven all over the USA, coast to coast. Americans do not need these overlarge engines, which sell big numbers. The marketing men said you do. That is clear. Tax fuel more and see the makers respond with smaller engines in vehicles that do not underperform.
Perhaps you have become accustomed to your government dictating what you "need" to drive, but that's not the case with Americans. Who does the "taxing" of fuels and the rest, the public or government? See...what you are you doing is imposing your socialist views on us. You are telling us what we need to drive, without considering that we drive what we want.
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:59 PM
 
Location: WNC
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I honestly dont think he gets it that us Americans drive what we want, not what someone tells us to drive. but hey guys, he's been to the US before which gives him way more expertise than those of us who have lived here all our lives.
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Old 08-22-2014, 03:44 PM
 
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Tons of people in Europe drive V6 and V8 BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes and no-one bats an eye.

Yes, some of them are diesel, but the point is Europeans drive large engined cars too.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:44 PM
 
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My 09 WRX 2.5L 4 cyl turbo eats V8s for breakfast

SOME V8's.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Don't turbos perform poorly in hot climates? A large portion of the US gets pretty darned hot. I have considered a 2.0T Santa Fe, but that issue concerns me.
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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This JohnUK guy is an idiot.Reminds me of that one prius idiot. If he lives in america with a 1.8l car, theres only a handfull of them on the market, could be a kia soul, or some econo gm car. I'd offer him a ride in my mamas Neon sxt, but it's large "overlapped" 2.0 i4 might be too much for his heart. The shear ludicrilous force of about 150hp sitting behind that smilling crosshair grille, and eyes full of excitement, as I mash the throttle, it torque steers a little to the right, 0-30 in 8 seconds, he'll be pinned to the heart covered seat covers as the engine screams like a home central air unit turning on. Dipping in and out of traffic, crashing over potholes.Should I dare offer a follow up with my dads 98 2.5l Ranger sport with factory 4:10 gears?

All joking aside, for what it is, the neon is pretty quick and nimble- for what it is.
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Old 08-23-2014, 02:49 AM
 
Location: London
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A 5 seater mid-sized car, Toyota Avensis. A car designed in Europe for the European market and built in the UK. Unavailable in the USA or Japan. The cheapest 1.8 litre manual shift:

Fuel Consumption:

Combined driving: 43.5 mpg (36.2 US)
Urban driving: 32.8 mpg (27.3 US)
Extra Urban driving: 52.3 mpg (43.55 US)

Maximum speed: 124 mph.
0-62mph: 9.4 seconds.

http://cdnlive.toyotaretail.co.uk.s3...es/avensis.pdf

I can look deeper and get even better figures on other makes and models.

Last edited by John-UK; 08-23-2014 at 03:37 AM..
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Old 08-23-2014, 02:50 AM
 
Location: London
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This JohnUK guy is an idiot.
< Snip inane idiotic ramblings >
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Old 08-23-2014, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Hey, if you can do it, so can I. People like you who think of cars s nothing but appliances that should all be built the same with simple four cylinders regardless of I guess apparent size or purpose of it, who at least twice a month come here to make such claims, not only are annoying, but most seriously daft. Then to have the audacity to tell others what they need in a vehicle, ignoring any and all factors, thinking you're holier than thou because of your gutless 3600lb underpowered mid sized 4banger- which I doubt will reach 125mph... maybe kph. Quite honestly all of that isn't nearly as bad as you stereotyping all Americans as horsepower hungry whatevers. The proof is x amount of threads of people who like you wonder why everybody doesn't have a Prius.

I googled your car, it looks no bigger than a Neon. The only thing I can agree with you about, is a car built to handle the twisties is awesome. You don't need to be bragging about this, however;



I like my dads 4banger ranger, but I'm sure a farm owner, or farm hand would rather have a 5+ liter full size truck, or a soccer mom would rather have a 295hp v6 Caravan to transport her 2.5 kids and their friends around. Last I checked it's been a long time since any brit decided what we needed or wanted over here. We have traffic signals at intersections here, not christmas trees(nick name for staging lights at a dragstrip), you let us worry about our cars, and we won't say anything about yall lack of dentist, savy?

Oh and thanks for not cutting out the important part of my text you quoted.
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