2010 GT-R; Beats The ZR-1 In Everything? (vehicles, brake, price, premium)
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The GT-R is a remarkable car, but I just can't get behind any vehicle that has a button where you can access all the vehicles potential, but it voids your warranty when you push it. Unforunately most people don't realize that until their third launch when the transmission takes a crap.
I've seen quite a few massively disappointed GT-R owners who were looking to get rid of their car. Heck, the local Audi dealer had a GT-R sitting on the lot that a customer traded in on an R8 as he was sick of dealing with all the BS that came with the GT-R including finding a dealer that really had the knowledge to work on one.
Conversely owners of the ZR-1 have nothing but massive praise for their car. What the GT-R does with computers the ZR-1 does with brute strength and drivers skill. I think the average person will get more satisfaction out of a GT-R as they will be able to drive it harder without killing themselves. However, for the few people with the scratch to buy it and the balls to drive it, the ZR-1 will deliver the better visceral experience even if it may be a tenth or two slower here and there.
For that much of a price premium I would expect a much bigger power increase...say 550.
They didn't go for a power increase on the Spec-V, they just enhanced everything else instead, seeing as it already had enough go-fast bits.
According to several car magazines, the carbon brakes on the Spec-V are the best available on any car on the market today, and the new suspension and set up makes the car even more stable, giving it that much more confidence, entering a corner.
Weight and handling matters more than outright power when you're tackling corners, especially if you already have close to 500hp on tap.
I'd probably skip the Spec-V and go straight for the base GT-R if I was in the market. I wonder how much they will be used in a few years. I know the C6 Corvettes can already be had for less than $25k although you'd have to be willing to sit in that interior.
I'd probably skip the Spec-V and go straight for the base GT-R if I was in the market. I wonder how much they will be used in a few years. I know the C6 Corvettes can already be had for less than $25k although you'd have to be willing to sit in that interior.
Because of cost, I agree, but I'd love those brakes...
The 'vette has a real stickshift, the GT-R does not. So you know how I rate them.
Beyond that - the 'vette makes big horsepower by big displacement and good breathing, while the GT-R makes what power it has by big revs. Not that there is anything wrong with big revs as such, but it's harder to do right, and sometimes this sort of engine does not "live long and prosper".
The 'vette has a real stickshift, the GT-R does not. So you know how I rate them.
Beyond that - the 'vette makes big horsepower by big displacement and good breathing, while the GT-R makes what power it has by big revs. Not that there is anything wrong with big revs as such, but it's harder to do right, and sometimes this sort of engine does not "live long and prosper".
Nissan has a great rep for bulletproof engine builds though, even at high boost.
Before I leave this board, I just wanted to say that I enjoy your posts.
I have never owned a 'Nissan', but I had a Datsun 1200 and it was as reliable as anything I ever had. If I was in the market (and had that kind of scratch) I would definitely look at the GT-R.
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