i hate motorcyclists (price, message, accident, money)

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by JRTurner

How many cars are there on the road and what percentage of them wear their seat belts?

The lack of a helmet doesn't cause an accident. But a high percentage of motorcycle accidents are the result of a careless 4 wheelers who either aren't paying attention or don't show any respect to the guy on the bike.

Even WITH a helmet.....when a car and bike meet, the biker's chances of serious injury or death is way higher than the cage driver. That rate goes even higher if the cager throws objects out their window deliberately trying to hit him.

It also would be helpful to note how many states do NOT have mandatory helmet laws. Here in Nebraska wearing a helmet is mandatory, but in Iowa and Minnesota it is not.

Personally, I've grown so accustomed to wearing a helmet that it feels very wrong to not wear one. However, I know there are a lot of bikers who refuse to wear one unless they're in a state where it's law.

So honestly, I have to wonder why there's a problem with bikers not wearing helmets, provided it's not a law in their state.

[Orincarnia]

Originally Posted by Gimme3steps

What happened to this?

you can leave.

Originally Posted by JRTurner

LOL...you're kind of clueless!

The term "cage" or "cager" refers to the fact that anyone sitting in a car with doors and windows is akin to sitting in a cage in comparison to a motorcycle where you are communing with nature and the elements.

It's not a derogatory term at all....just a fact. To a guy on a bike, a car is like a cage.

well thank you for the clarification and using a word that teenage girls used in the 90's, although reading the guys syntax, i could replace cager with any descriptive term and the sentence would still sound derogatory.

Originally Posted by JRTurner

How many cars are there on the road and what percentage of them wear their seat belts?

The lack of a helmet doesn't cause an accident. But a high percentage of motorcycle accidents are the result of a careless 4 wheelers who either aren't paying attention or don't show any respect to the guy on the bike.

Even WITH a helmet.....when a car and bike meet, the biker's chances of serious injury or death is way higher than the cage driver. That rate goes even higher if the cager throws objects out their window deliberately trying to hit him.

its called defensive driving. since motorcyclists are already endangering their lives by leaving themselves exposed, they should take extra caution, my statistics show that the majority don't even wear helmets, so why should i ensure their safety if they don't.

Originally Posted by Bydand

Exactly.

Plus I don't know a single biker who rides his bike 100% of the time, so they must hate themselves when they are driving anything other than a bike according to the OP.

Originally Posted by whiteboyslo

exactly. being a 'cager' or driving a 'cage' is not a put-down. hell, 90% of the time I'M a cager. it's just slang.

agree 100% with this as well.

Mike

have you read the other comments in this thread? most of them are calling me stupid, foolish, and dangerous despite my understanding and consideration of the advice given in this thread. so pardon me if i'm a little defensive having to dodge personal attacks while trying to have a legitimate conversation.

Originally Posted by whiteboyslo

do you even know what 'troll' means?

Urban Dictionary: troll

Mike

you feel like i have caused a disruption and unwarrented arguing? i feel i gave a legitimate opinion, its the other posters that have changed the topic, picked apart my opinion, and tried to attack me into submission.

Originally Posted by JRTurner

Since you seem to have appointed yourself the traffic warden for Texas....maybe you should make a self-arrest. Littering is illegal in Texas isn't it?

I'm pretty confident that had a real cop seen you throw a bowl of chili at anyone....even another automobile, you'd have been arrested for road rage and littering.

thank you for chiming on the worst thing in my post. if you read the thread you would see this has been mentioned 3 times already and i have responded with understanding. however you do have a point, ensuring children treat each other well, respect eachother, and don't pick on the little guy (from volunteer work) has spilled over into my driving.

funny thing is motorcyclists think they can get away with anything. i was helping my parents move into their new house they drove the truck with 2 beds and a table in the back, which had the gate down, i drove the minivan behind the truck (in a very masculine manner i might add, jk) this motorcycle went around me on a two lane road crossing a double yellow line on an incline between the truck and van (no helmet btw).

the bed started inching back (but held with the bungee cords and rope). i yelled to the biker "don't ya see we're movin stuff here?!" he drove around the truck, stopped on the level ground and walked up to my mother in the drivers seat and proceeded to yell at her for the bed sliding and being packed wrong.

i pulled up and got out. my brother got out of the truck and then my dad followed him. they questioned the guy about his illegal pass and rate of speed. he jumped on his bike and drove off like a coward.

explain how his actions were not equivalent with a child...

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by Orincarnia

funny thing is motorcyclists think they can get away with anything. i was helping my parents move into their new house they drove the truck with 2 beds and a table in the back, which had the gate down, i drove the minivan behind the truck (in a very masculine manner i might add, jk) this motorcycle went around me on a two lane road crossing a double yellow line on an incline between the truck and van (no helmet btw).

the bed started inching back (but held with the bungee cords and rope). i yelled at the biker "don't ya see we're movin stuff here?!" he drove around the truck, stopped on the level ground and walked up to my mother in the drivers seat and proceeded to yell at her for packing the bed wrong.

i drove up and got out. my brother got out of the truck and then my dad followed him. they questioned the guy about his illegal pass and rate of speed. he jumped on his bike and drove off like a coward.

explain how his actions were not equivalent with a child...

I find this entire story VERY hard to believe. VERY hard...

[Orincarnia]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

I find this entire story VERY hard to believe. VERY hard...

then don't comment on it. i would prefer to get anyone elses take on the story except yours, after reading your previous posts.

[Gimme3steps]

Originally Posted by Orincarnia

you can leave.


i pulled up and got out. my brother got out of the truck and then my dad followed him. they questioned the guy about his illegal pass and rate of speed. he jumped on his bike and drove off like a coward.

explain how his actions were not equivalent with a child...

Sorry pal, I ain't going nowhere.

And three against one? I'd say getting on his bike and driving off made him the smartest one there.

[Orincarnia]

Originally Posted by Gimme3steps

Sorry pal, I ain't going nowhere.

And three against one? I'd say getting on his bike and driving off made him the smartest one there.

he would have been smarter to avoid being behind a truck hauling large objects and he would have had no qualms with the way we packed it.

a car could not have gotten around me and in between the vehicles like that. so just because a motorcyclist can do it, does it make it right?

if we are so worried about motorcyclists safety, why do people feel it is ok for them to lane split, just to blame the "cagers" for not watching out if they get t-boned in a lane change?

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by Orincarnia

then don't comment on it. i would prefer to get anyone elses take on the story except yours, after reading your previous posts.

My take on the story is that you're making up crap. That should be obvious enough.

By the way, how old am I? You claim to know, after all...

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by Orincarnia

he would have been smarter to avoid being behind a truck hauling large objects and he would have had no qualms with the way we packed it.

a car could not have gotten around me and in between the vehicles like that. so just because a motorcyclist can do it, does it make it right?

if we are so worried about motorcyclists safety, why do people feel it is ok for them to lane split, just to blame the "cagers" for not watching out if they get t-boned in a lane change?

Sounds to me as though (and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and believe your far-fetched story for a moment) you are DARNED LUCKY you didn't encounter a police officer during your Beverly Hillbillies-esque move. They don't smile happily at unsecured loads being dragged down the highway.

[Gimme3steps]

Originally Posted by Orincarnia

he would have been smarter to avoid being behind a truck hauling large objects and he would have had no qualms with the way we packed it.

a car could not have gotten around me and in between the vehicles like that. so just because a motorcyclist can do it, does it make it right?

if we are so worried about motorcyclists safety, why do people feel it is ok for them to lane split, just to blame the "cagers" for not watching out if they get t-boned in a lane change?

Well there you go.

1. You and your family don't own the road. What was he supposed to do? Wait for the parade of movers to finish tying up traffic and then get on the road?

2. Obviously, the real reason you got fired up is because you were passed by a motorcycle. You couldn't have cared less about his safety.

3. Why didn't you just throw your bowl of chili at him?

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by Gimme3steps

Well there you go.

1. You and your family don't own the road. What was he supposed to do? Wait for the parade of movers to finish tying up traffic and then get on the road?

2. Obviously, the real reason you got fired up is because you were passed by a motorcycle. You couldn't have cared less about his safety.

3. Why didn't you just throw your bowl of chili at him?

He didn't HAVE any chili, dangit! Just a couple corn dog sticks - and those don't throw very well.