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Old 02-03-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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I have a G.E.D. and 67 college credits. The A&P program I took was considered by the college to be a non-credit program.

Should I go back to school and get my AA or does it even matter?

Could I get my Bachelors degree in the Army, do I still get the rank of E-4 when I'm done or is that a one time thing in the begining?
Doesn't matter for the army, but career wise? Yea, it helps its another feather in your resume cap. If you only need a little work to finish it then pick it up. The E-4 thing is in the initial enlistment if you have it then you start as an E-4 if not E-3. I'd also get a copy of my transcripts and copy them about a 100 times and give a copy to everybody you encounter throughout the enlistment process so you ensure you start as an E-3.

I don't know Army advancement but you should be able to make E-4 within 18 months of enlistment.

Good luck
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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I have a G.E.D. and 67 college credits. The A&P program I took was considered by the college to be a non-credit program.

Should I go back to school and get my AA or does it even matter?

Could I get my Bachelors degree in the Army, do I still get the rank of E-4 when I'm done or is that a one time thing in the begining?
The enlisted promotion system looks at civilian education as well as military education and on every promotion board I have sat on (both sides) the question "what have you been doing to make yourself a better soldier?" or similiar.

I am retired Army.

I finished my A&P training in 1966 (George T. Baker), but did not get my tickets until around 1972. But that education was looked at favorably...

You could get your Bachelors degree while in the Army, I did...

Not official, but a good guide: Army-Portal.com - Army Enlisted Ranks and Promotion Requirements

G.E.D? some services do not take it, some require some college which you should be good.


Rich
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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The enlisted promotion system looks at civilian education as well as military education and on every promotion board I have sat on (both sides) the question "what have you been doing to make yourself a better soldier?" or similiar.

I am retired Army.

I finished my A&P training in 1966 (George T. Baker), but did not get my tickets until around 1972. But that education was looked at favorably...

You could get your Bachelors degree while in the Army, I did...

Not official, but a good guide: Army-Portal.com - Army Enlisted Ranks and Promotion Requirements

G.E.D? some services do not take it, some require some college which you should be good.


Rich
It's cool you went to Baker here in Miami, I was going to go there. It's a great school.

What esle can you guys tell me about aviation in the army? Anything I should be aware of, any tips to success in this field?
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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What esle can you guys tell me about aviation in the army?
Not much... I was in Hawk Missiles... Use to be on a missile site on Old Cutler Road 15 miles North East of Homestead AFB, FL...


Rich
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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It's cool you went to Baker here in Miami, I was going to go there. It's a great school.

What esle can you guys tell me about aviation in the army? Anything I should be aware of, any tips to success in this field?
As with anything, you will only get what you put into it......The schools (AIT) only teach so much....and everything else is hands on. This is why I loved going to flight platoon....it was your ACFT, you took care of it...you cleaned it, you made sure it was ready, you changed all the parts that needed changed, including engines, transmissions, radios, signal processors, and well, if it needed changing....guess what...YOU did it...

Just remember, you have different companies, one is flight company and the other is a maintenance company, in a flight company you will ALWAYS work on ACFT.......if your in a maintenance company, you do not always have to work on the ACFT, they will put you were needed...when needed, go to the motorpool and service that truck, go to the weapons room and clean/issue weapons....or if you are really lucky, you will become the First Sergeant's (1SG) paper pusher....and NEVER see an ACFT....

I wish I could explain it better, but seeing it from both sides....I used to be OH-58s from 1988 - 1995, and trust me, working on something that you have to fly in is a real accomplishment....working on something and watching it fly away...sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! And did I ever mention you get paid just a little extra for being in a FLT PLT? about $150 extra....
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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Tr00th, the Army Aviation folks have given you great advice. I served in the USAF and enjoyed working with Army Aviation folks; they're a great bunch! I could've never imagined myself in aircraft maintenance but I found myself crewing fighters and now I couldn't imagine doing any other job in the military. Although not as many as the Army, the USAF does have helicopters. I spent most of my time on fighter aircraft but always thought the cargo/tanker/bomber aircraft would've been great to work on.

Best of luck in whichever direction you choose! Keep us posted.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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I served in the USAF and enjoyed working with Army Aviation folks; they're a great bunch! .
Thank you, I enjoyed working with the Air Force also....

One of the best times was way back in 1990....in Saudi...we had a dirt airstrip that was within 300 yards off our little camp site....well, us being Aviation....on day we decided to make 1 - 10 numbers on the back of card board MRE box's

When a C-130 would start to do touch and go's.....we would go down there and hold up our signs....and rate them on there touch and go's....

Very nice....we got a lot of "extra's" when they flew in....and landed...
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Old 02-04-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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Read this whole thread............not much I can help you with,i'm too ancient.Crewed a UH1H in 71-72............I did "get" to fly with it.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:24 PM
 
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Chucksnee, I was stationed at a base long ago and far away. We regularly got in Chinooks for some mission or other. One day a Chinook brought in an inspection team for our base Comm unit. The aircrew waited for the inspection team in our office, which we shared with the ground support equipment & drop tank maintenance/storage folks. The tank maintenance NCOIC had a non-running VW Bug behind the hangar. He and the Chinook pilot struck up a deal and we pulled it out to the Chinook with our Follow Me truck. The crew winched it aboard & tied it down. The inspection team returned and got back on the Chinook without a word. And away they went!
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Old 02-05-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Tr00th, the Army Aviation folks have given you great advice. I served in the USAF and enjoyed working with Army Aviation folks; they're a great bunch! I could've never imagined myself in aircraft maintenance but I found myself crewing fighters and now I couldn't imagine doing any other job in the military. Although not as many as the Army, the USAF does have helicopters. I spent most of my time on fighter aircraft but always thought the cargo/tanker/bomber aircraft would've been great to work on.

Best of luck in whichever direction you choose! Keep us posted.
Thanks Crew Chief and everyone here for helping me see the good and bad parts of this MOS. I am going to talk to a recuiter sometime this week for sure.

I can't see any real reason why I shouldn't join. But if I do I will let you know. Also, Chief I didn't know the Air Force had rotorwing aircraft, I always thought it was all fixed wing. I will definally look into that, maybe they have a better program. Thanks for that.

If you guys have more to add feel free, if not then thanks again for the advice.
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