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Old 02-18-2012, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"A remote-controlled aircraft owned by an animal rights group was reportedly shot down near Broxton Bridge Plantation Sunday near Ehrhardt, S.C. Steve Hindi, president of SHARK (SHowing Animals Respect and Kindness), said his group was preparing to launch its Mikrokopter drone to video what he called a live pigeon shoot on Sunday when law enforcement officers and an attorney claiming to represent the privately-owned plantation near Ehrhardt tried to stop the aircraft from flying. 'It didn't work; what SHARK was doing was perfectly legal," Hindi said in a news release.'"

Animal rights group says drone shot down

I don't want to make this thread into an animal rights issue. I'm more aghast that any private group or individual can 1) own a drone and 2) use drone surveillance on private property. Did you know that? What do you think of that?
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Near the water
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Don't you think one should be able to do whatever they want on their own property?
Why should it be illegal? You can purchase one for about $500, granted it won't be like the one iran just aquired but if you are techically inclined it could be fun.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:55 AM
 
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As far as owning a "drone", hobbyists have been putting cameras on their model rockets and RC aircraft for some time so I guess it's not against the law to do so.

However, if anyone can legally use that means of surveillance in the airspace of someone's private property to spy on people, that's gonna open up some tremendous opportunities, not to mention added reality, to the fans of amateur porn videos.

Keep your blinds closed, folks.

That said, I hope the rights of property owners extend to a cetain amount of airspace as well. I'd like to see a lawyer weigh in here.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Don't you think one should be able to do whatever they want on their own property?
Why should it be illegal? You can purchase one for about $500, granted it won't be like the one iran just aquired but if you are techically inclined it could be fun.
They weren't on their own property. Here's a scenario - an ex-husband using a drone to spy on a remarried ex-wife at her place of residence.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:03 AM
 
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As far as owning a "drone", hobbyists have been putting cameras on their model rockets and RC aircraft for some time so I guess it's not against the law to do so.

However, if anyone can legally use that means of surveillance in the airspace of someone's private property to spy on people, that's gonna open up some tremendous opportunities, not to mention added reality, to the fans of amateur porn videos.

Keep your blinds closed, folks.

That said, I hope the rights of property owners extend to a cetain amount of airspace as well. I'd like to see a lawyer weigh in here.
Yeah, me too. What about cameras that can "see through" walls. They exist, right? Maybe the average Joe can't afford one but businesses and wealthy people might be able to. I only read about law enforcement/government wanting to do this kind of thing which is scary enough but a private citizen or a group with this kind of power is REALLY scary.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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As far as owning a "drone", hobbyists have been putting cameras on their model rockets and RC aircraft for some time so I guess it's not against the law to do so.

However, if anyone can legally use that means of surveillance in the airspace of someone's private property to spy on people, that's gonna open up some tremendous opportunities, not to mention added reality, to the fans of amateur porn videos.

Keep your blinds closed, folks.

That said, I hope the rights of property owners extend to a cetain amount of airspace as well. I'd like to see a lawyer weigh in here.
To my understanding there is NO "private air space"...there is "restricted" air space and those rules are regulated by the military/FAA and there are state laws about harrassing livestock,wild game and buzzing towns etc...but you do not own your own air space.

If they start buzzing my place,I'll just get "nekkid" and give 'em a show...wouldn't be long and they would get bored and go to a more enjoyable place.

BTW...I could be wrong,but local idiot LEOs can probably end up in Federal court/prison over shooting at any aircraft....those ftards get dumber by the day.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I hope one could expect to have privacy rights over their property. The 4th Amendment clearly introduces the concept of privacy in your home and property.

I certainly would support someone shooting down a drone that was spying on their private property.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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People have been putting cameras on RC things for years. They even sell little toys to kids with cameras and Nerf darts to shoot their siblings. Flipping out about such a prevalent technology is pretty bizarre, and starts looking pretty crazy.

Do you want to outlaw people owning cameras? How about make it an offense to own a camera that is mobile?

It certainly shouldn't be flying around another person's property, even though it's not technically illegal. It's also not illegal for me to be tossing rocks around my property, even if it happens to hit an expensive something flying around.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Do you want to outlaw people owning cameras? How about make it an offense to own a camera that is mobile?.
No, but if you send your camera onto my property or above my property, I would consider destroying it.

We don't need a new law. Just support for property rights.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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No, but if you send your camera onto my property or above my property, I would consider destroying it.

We don't need a new law. Just support for property rights.
Although I agree with you in theory,in practice it's a whole new ballgame...unfortunately due to the FAA butting in on Ultralight aircraft,I had the misfortune of talking to them...DO NOT SCREW WITH THEM or it'll cost you more than your property is worth many,many times over...they have every state,fed and local LEA on speed dial and have their full attention on top of that..I took their advice and it didn't cost me a dime,but had I not it would have been a bad,bad deal for me.

If you never believe a word I say on anything,believe this...do NOT shoot at ANY type of aircraft...an aircraft is defined in some law books as a craft capable of flight carrying/transporting goods and passengers through the air...other laws define it simply as a craft capable of flight.....that would include model planes/drones/Boy Scout rockets.

Just weinie wave them and let 'em go,you'll laugh so much harder in the long run.
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