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Since the usual detractors cannot seem to stick to the thread topic, here are more mainstream new sources addressing the loss of privacy to federal government use of drones. Go ahead and tear apart the ever liberal USA Today or more conservative leaning Forbes.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Was I addessing you? No. The poster to whom I was addressing was referring to surveillance of criminal activites of local LE jurisdiction as an excuse for the EPA drones. If you cannot keep up with the context of the post then don't bother addressing my posts.
Well, actually you responded to "They've been using helicopters to follow criminals in cars, spot marijuana grows out in the back country etc. for 30 years." which makes NO reference to "local LE jurisdiction" as you allege.
To the EPA, pollution IS a criminal activity, and as mentioned,criminal activity has been surveilled from the air for many years.
If YOU can't keep up with the simple context of a thread perhaps your time would be better spent improving your reading comprehension than imagining things that were said that weren't.
How is this allowed? Its unconstitutional and proof that our privacy is an illusion.
We should all write our congressmen and express our opposition to these drones. This is a violation of our right to privacy and should require a warrant just like wiretaps.
How is this any different than <insert law enforcement agency here> using helicopters?
Y'all are trained to react to certain words in certain ways. You hear/read the word "drone" and you instantly picture every futuristic big brother style sci-fi film you've ever seen. Good doggy. Pavlov would be proud.
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Originally Posted by burdell
Manned aircraft have been used for surveillance over private property for many years looking for things such as marijuana growing operations with little/no outcry from the public. Why does the lack of a living breathing pilot matter? Or just another lame excuse to blame Obama for something?
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Originally Posted by Mathguy
They've been using helicopters to follow criminals in cars, spot marijuana grows out in the back country etc. for 30 years.
You're kidding right? On the average day, how many police helicopters do you have hovering over your house? I'd reconcile not even one. Conversely, the skies can handle FAR more drones with significantly more surveillance capability.
I don't think this is an issue that is served well by apathy. I hope that there aren't many people in this nation that share your view.
We should all write our congressmen and express our opposition to these drones. This is a violation of our right to privacy and should require a warrant just like wiretaps.
Indeed, this can be addressed via the 10th Amendment and the states nullifying federal policy with state legislation.
We should all write our congressmen and express our opposition to these drones. This is a violation of our right to privacy and should require a warrant just like wiretaps.
Do you have the same concerns with helicopters? Satellite photography? Why the outrage now?
I think that we're far too over-regulated in this country, and that many of the laws - federal, state and local - are beyond overreaching, but this noise being made about the use of drones is just plain silly. It's the stuff of paranoid fantasy. You can argue against the laws, and more often than not, I'll be right beside you, but I've said it several times on this forum, and I'll say it again now: DRONES ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN HELICOPTERS. If you're ok with helicopters patrolling for whatever, then you should be equally ok with drones patrolling for whatever.
If someone's making noise about the use of drones, without making an equal amount of noise about the use of helicopters (or even satellites), then that person is either stupid or a hypocrite.
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