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Old 11-06-2012, 06:52 AM
 
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I have to agree with crownvic, it really wasn't that good of a movie. I liked it for the first 40 min or so (until after the crash). Itwas not one off denzels better movies. I liked training day better.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I have to agree with crownvic, it really wasn't that good of a movie. I liked it for the first 40 min or so (until after the crash). Itwas not one off denzels better movies. I liked training day better.
So did I....Training Day was for grown-ups and was outstanding, as was Crimson Tide.

I think I've finally learned that I must pay no attention to reviews - even if the overwhelmingly majority like a given film. They're wrong on this one and they were wrong on the utterly childish and forgettable Star Trek (2009).
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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So did I....Training Day was for grown-ups and was outstanding, as was Crimson Tide.

I think I've finally learned that I must pay no attention to reviews - even if the overwhelmingly majority like a given film. They're wrong on this one and they were wrong on the utterly childish and forgettable Star Trek (2009) .

Loved it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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it was a movie. i dont think different after seeing almost any movie about a profession. He just had a thing for coke and alcohol. I liike alcohol but not that much
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:11 PM
 
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Loved it.
Me too! There's a second Star Trek in production...can't wait!
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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I don't see why a person's opinion of pilots would change after seeing this movie. After all this is a Hollywood movie which means it emphasizes things differently than in real life.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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I don't see why a person's opinion of pilots would change after seeing this movie. After all this is a Hollywood movie which means it emphasizes things differently than in real life.
I agree, over dramatizing - What you see in movies is not what really happens in real life, it's typical for Holly-Weed to attract movie audiences. From what I understand, commercial pilots need to undergo annual physical exams, which include tests for traces of illegal narcotics. With alcohol consumption, well I'm sure all of you know the story with the 2 America West Airlines/US Airways pilots who were removed from the flight deck of the aircraft before departure because they were suspected of being under the influence, they were subsequently terminated by the airline.

I won't watch a movie like that, and I hope the flying public who see that movie will be able to seperate fact from fiction.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: SW OK (AZ Native)
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When "Top Gun" came out in 1986 (right after Operation El Dorado Canyon in Lbya) the perception of the military, especially fighter pilots, changed immensely. Everyone thought we were ripped, mousse-haired golden boys (OK, sort of true) who broke flying rules in order to gain advantage. Many of those peacetime rules are designed to keep one safe in wartime as well, and at the same time preserve the finite resources of pilots and aircraft. "Top Gun", though a fun movie, was too hard to stomach for a number of reasons, all "hollywooded" up. In later years it was fashionable to have "Top Gun" parties where everyone took a swig of something everytime a technical error manifested itself. Gimme a break, a post-battle damage single-engine fly-by? Put it on the deck, Iceman!

(Another variation: Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Everytime they say "dude" everyone drinks beer, and a shot of Jaeger for every air guitar sequence.)

One movie I hope did NOT influence the populace was "Iron Eagle".
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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When "Top Gun" came out in 1986 (right after Operation El Dorado Canyon in Lbya) the perception of the military, especially fighter pilots, changed immensely. Everyone thought we were ripped, mousse-haired golden boys (OK, sort of true) who broke flying rules in order to gain advantage. Many of those peacetime rules are designed to keep one safe in wartime as well, and at the same time preserve the finite resources of pilots and aircraft. "Top Gun", though a fun movie, was too hard to stomach for a number of reasons, all "hollywooded" up. In later years it was fashionable to have "Top Gun" parties where everyone took a swig of something everytime a technical error manifested itself. Gimme a break, a post-battle damage single-engine fly-by? Put it on the deck, Iceman!

(Another variation: Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Everytime they say "dude" everyone drinks beer, and a shot of Jaeger for every air guitar sequence.)

One movie I hope did NOT influence the populace was "Iron Eagle".
There were so many sequences in top gun that were totally incorrect, inaccurate, etc...moving passed that, the movie did a great job of creating a couple generations worth of pilots, and pilot wannabe's...it was the only reason I got into aviation, and probably has a ton to do with why I have this screen name.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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I agree, over dramatizing - What you see in movies is not what really happens in real life, it's typical for Holly-Weed to attract movie audiences. From what I understand, commercial pilots need to undergo annual physical exams, which include tests for traces of illegal narcotics. With alcohol consumption, well I'm sure all of you know the story with the 2 America West Airlines/US Airways pilots who were removed from the flight deck of the aircraft before departure because they were suspected of being under the influence, they were subsequently terminated by the airline.

I won't watch a movie like that, and I hope the flying public who see that movie will be able to seperate fact from fiction.

As an FYI, pilot medicals are done on a regular and scheduled basis, and in all honesty, they're not particularly invasive. It would be pretty easy for a substance abuser to get through one without being detected for anything. The random drug tests that airlines employ on the other hand would be what likely gets a person as depicted in the movie...

What catches most "boozing" pilots though, is an aware passenger, a responsible flight crewmember, or a TSA agent who's saving the planet
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