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I am a "road warrior"--120K miles last year, 102K this year.
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Originally Posted by annerk
Flying isn't unpleasant, people are cheap. Big difference. A few months back I spent a very pleasant nine hours in a 180 degree lay flat seat with good food and decent wine, a fluffy pillow and fresh blanket large enough to cover my entire body, and great IFE options had I chosen that instead of sleep. You get what you pay for.
I never recline my seat back fully.. I just find it to be inconsiderate to go all the way. I generally make a compromise on about half way but if the guy in front of me goes all the way than I typically have no choice but to do the same. I let the guy/gal behind me know why though - out of courtesy!
It sounds like that particular aircraft was equipped with seats that have an "articulating seat pan."
My particular airline ordered several A330s equipped with Weber Model 5600 seats that only have an "articulating seat bottom", instead of an "articulating seat pan."
It was a USAirways A320 East fleet. It was a fixed pan nothing special seat. Only the backs move, and not very far at that.
Would you know what company manufactured the seats in those A320s by any chance? Unlike their A320s, the seating comfort of their A330s doesn't seem to be highly regarded... US Airways Economy Class Seat Reviews| SKYTRAX
I was about 20 years old and on an 11 hour flight, and the man who sat next to me looked very uncomfortable because his knees were squished from the person who was reclining in front of him.
I am not sure why I spoke up as I did not know the squished man, but I said to the reclining person (who I could see well since his seat was back and the two seats next to him were upright) that his seat seemed to be broken (which I believed!) as he was all the way back on someone's knees. The man put his seat upright, and a few minutes later grumbled at me that his seat was not in fact broken, but he did not recline after that and I think the man next to me was happy if I remember correctly.
Anyway, airlines should not make seats and/or seating arrangements where someone could potentially have squished knees for 11 hours!
Now there's some solid evidence of little harm to the rear of a reclining seat. What surprises me is that nobody who's complained of their tray table being unusable due to infringement of the reclining seat has understood how those "knee defenders" actually work by stopping the seat from moving in the empty space allowed for by the tray table's design just FOR that movement. I'm guessing that's part of the reason that table slides out towards you as well.
2 inches? Is that what everyone is fighting over? Slapping faces, kicking seats,insults, bouncing in reclined seats etc all for 2 lousy inches?
On edit: Does anyone else find this a bit ridiculous? Question, what would you tell your child if they came to you with this argument or, what do you think your parents would/would've told YOU?
Seriously, the seats recline so little that it's just not the issue that many make it out to be.
As far as someone needing the armrest because they are bigger, I don't subscribe to that. If they are too big to fit into their seat without taking space out of another, they need to buy two seats.
There will never be SRO flights, that's a marketing gimmick that RyanAir came up with just to get their name back into the press.
It IS an issue.....the seats recline to the point where too many times I have had some strangers head in my lap. It's a total invasion of my space. Unfortunately, I have had the bad luck to be seated behind someone with your the same mentality as you....."tough luck, I'm going to be comfortable at your expense". If you are going to make me miserable during the flight, I'll do my best to do the same with no thought to your comfort....kicking and pushing at the back of your seat in order to adjust my position, hanging on your headrest to get up, etc. After all, if you don't like it, you can take the seat in the back of the plane. Problem solved.
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