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Old 10-05-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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The cost of reconstructing the 757 line would be prohibited, especially since the 737 line now equals the
basic 757 airframe. Not to consider the price of competiting Airbus products. 757's, along with 727's, will soon be
just fond memories, and entries in photo collections.
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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The cost of reconstructing the 757 line would be prohibited, especially since the 737 line now equals the
basic 757 airframe. Not to consider the price of competiting Airbus products. 757's, along with 727's, will soon be
just fond memories, and entries in photo collections.
The airframe may or may not be equal, but the 757 could do more than the 737 can. Of course, the 737 does what it does more economically but that's a different issue.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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The airframe may or may not be equal, but the 757 could do more than the 737 can. Of course, the 737 does what it does more economically but that's a different issue.
They're both the same narrow paper towel roll, from an accommodations perspective. If I can't stand fully up from my seat without my head hitting the overhead panel(where lights and vents are), then that plane should be confined to providing regional domestic service, not overseas or halfway round the world.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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They're both the same narrow paper towel roll, from an accommodations perspective. If I can't stand fully up from my seat without my head hitting the overhead panel(where lights and vents are), then that plane should be confined to providing regional domestic service, not overseas or halfway round the world.
That's a passenger perspective. I don't disagree totally. The 707 used to do international flights and it is the same size as both the 737 and the 757. I don't see a reason why it would be impossible to make a 757 comfortable for longer flights. Same with the 737. However, my original comment was not about passenger comfort. It was about the 757's better performance than the 737, or the A321, which I didn't mention.
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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That's a passenger perspective. I don't disagree totally. The 707 used to do international flights and it is the same size as both the 737 and the 757. I don't see a reason why it would be impossible to make a 757 comfortable for longer flights. Same with the 737. However, my original comment was not about passenger comfort. It was about the 757's better performance than the 737, or the A321, which I didn't mention.
I'm just adding the passenger side of things to the discsussion, since it hasn't already been brought up.
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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I agree, the probably have the tooling drawing, but wow the expense cost to duplicate it.
Shortsighted indeed.... but rebuilding the tooling would still be cheaper than developing an entirely new aircraft... and of course they'd be making some improvements too, like that new wing, and more use of composites.

Wouldn't this be cool: Boeing bringing out that 757X, Airbus answering with an "A310neo."

But of course Airbus is hamstrung by the huge mistake of the A380 (like the Concorde, a technological innovation but a commercial failure). And Boeing just seems to be dithering about what to do:
www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-not-rushing-decision-on-nma-commercial-chief-441749

They're basically telling the airlines: if you want something with transatlantic range, but smaller than a 787, you might as well order the A321LR, because we won't have anything for a long long time.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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Shortsighted indeed.... but rebuilding the tooling would still be cheaper than developing an entirely new aircraft... and of course they'd be making some improvements too, like that new wing, and more use of composites.

Wouldn't this be cool: Boeing bringing out that 757X, Airbus answering with an "A310neo."

But of course Airbus is hamstrung by the huge mistake of the A380 (like the Concorde, a technological innovation but a commercial failure). And Boeing just seems to be dithering about what to do:
www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-not-rushing-decision-on-nma-commercial-chief-441749

They're basically telling the airlines: if you want something with transatlantic range, but smaller than a 787, you might as well order the A321LR, because we won't have anything for a long long time.

Since airlines are in a race to provide the most frequent departure times across the ocean, how about recreating about a thousand of these, and have them depart every ten minutes?....


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Old 10-12-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
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Shortsighted indeed.... but rebuilding the tooling would still be cheaper than developing an entirely new aircraft... and of course they'd be making some improvements too, like that new wing, and more use of composites.

Wouldn't this be cool: Boeing bringing out that 757X, Airbus answering with an "A310neo."
Yep, very cool. I flew on a 757 from ONT to DFW or ONT to ORD 3 times a month for a year. And it was a hot rod IMO.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:47 PM
 
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Meanwhile you see Delta retrofitting 25+ Year old 757s to look brand new and broke ass United is doing all they can to get the utilization back up for the new BOS-SFO flights.

I called it 3+ years ago that United was making a mistake dumping 757s left and right instead of regional jets and I got trashed on other forums. Whatever, they can have their 737s with dumb streaming entertainment.
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