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Old 09-24-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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this maybe a dumb question but i have always wondered about something,when boeing finishes a short range plane like a 737 how does it deliver it across the atlantic?? i can see for an airline in south america, it can just hop from one airport to another refueling when needed but how does it deliver to an airline on the other side of the world???
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Well, the plane won't be loaded down with passengers, which certainly helps to increase it's range. A 737 should have no problem with that hop.

Really think even smaller. A friend of mine did a delivery trip in a Cessna 172 for someone, flying it from North America to Europe. I forget the exact route, but take a look at a globe and you can more of less figure it out. Something like Canada -> Greenland -> Iceland -> Scotland.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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Well, the plane won't be loaded down with passengers, which certainly helps to increase it's range. A 737 should have no problem with that hop.

Really think even smaller. A friend of mine did a delivery trip in a Cessna 172 for someone, flying it from North America to Europe. I forget the exact route, but take a look at a globe and you can more of less figure it out. Something like Canada -> Greenland -> Iceland -> Scotland.
Those guys who deliver light singles across the pond are a special breed. There's a fairly large market for this, and some pilots do it for a career.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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Well, the plane won't be loaded down with passengers, which certainly helps to increase it's range. A 737 should have no problem with that hop.

Really think even smaller. A friend of mine did a delivery trip in a Cessna 172 for someone, flying it from North America to Europe. I forget the exact route, but take a look at a globe and you can more of less figure it out. Something like Canada -> Greenland -> Iceland -> Scotland.
This was covered in one of those pilot/aircraft shows on the Discovery channel a while back. A guy was trying to bring a Cessna back from South America to Florida. He basically said it was risking your life to do so, as you have to cross large chunks of uninhabited land as well as the gulf of Mexico. His other fear was that even though he filed flight plans, he said you always have to worry about some military plane mistaking you for a drug courier.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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this maybe a dumb question but i have always wondered about something,when boeing finishes a short range plane like a 737 how does it deliver it across the atlantic?? i can see for an airline in south america, it can just hop from one airport to another refueling when needed but how does it deliver to an airline on the other side of the world???
Same thing, I believe. The 737 can fly rather far, especially unloaded. You're still ETOPS restricted, but I assume you can do stop-overs in Canada, Iceland, UK, etc.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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The smaller piston aircraft are often fitted with ferry tanks that hold extra fuel. They take a northern route but still have large expanses of open water, so they also have survival suits, rafts, etc. Not my cup of tea.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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Some small planes are delivered to Asia and Europe by boat, either assembled or disassembled. I saw that with small yachts that do not have the range to cross the Atlantic.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:04 PM
 
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This was covered in one of those pilot/aircraft shows on the Discovery channel a while back. A guy was trying to bring a Cessna back from South America to Florida. He basically said it was risking your life to do so, as you have to cross large chunks of uninhabited land as well as the gulf of Mexico. His other fear was that even though he filed flight plans, he said you always have to worry about some military plane mistaking you for a drug courier.
Indeed!
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:42 AM
 
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Same thing, I believe. The 737 can fly rather far, especially unloaded. You're still ETOPS restricted, but I assume you can do stop-overs in Canada, Iceland, UK, etc.
Do you need to follow ETOPS restrictions if you're not carrying commercial passengers? BBJs hop across the Atlantic frequently with no issues that I'm aware of.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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Well, the plane won't be loaded down with passengers, which certainly helps to increase it's range. A 737 should have no problem with that hop.

Really think even smaller. A friend of mine did a delivery trip in a Cessna 172 for someone, flying it from North America to Europe. I forget the exact route, but take a look at a globe and you can more of less figure it out. Something like Canada -> Greenland -> Iceland -> Scotland.
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Those guys who deliver light singles across the pond are a special breed. There's a fairly large market for this, and some pilots do it for a career.
I know someone who worked as a ferry pilot for a few years when he wasn't able to get an airline job. He flew a few C-47 Dakotas as a co-pilot and then flew by himself - Islanders, a Piper Arrow, Cessnas & a
Mooney. This was across the Pacific as well as the Atlantic Oceans.

The route over the Atlantic Ocean was usually from Wick, Scotland to Iceland. Then sometimes a direct flight to Iqualiut, Canada and other times stopping in Greenland before continuing to Canada. In the other direction some of the flights were from St. John's Newfoundland, Canada to Greenland and/or Iceland. One time he managed to fly (a Cessna 172) direct from St. John's to Ireland.
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