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Old 01-05-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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with the poor to no sales of the A380, we can guess the world isnt ready for a plane this big,like the concorde before it its another example of a supply looking for a demand.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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with the poor to no sales of the A380, we can guess the world isnt ready for a plane this big,like the concorde before it its another example of a supply looking for a demand.
Just posted this to another A380 thread, so here you are: Battle for the future of the skies: Boeing 787 Dreamliner v Airbus A380 | Business | The Guardian
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:20 PM
 
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The A380 was never meant to compete against the 787 for orders, so what's the problem ?
And with over 300 orders( there are surely more to come) i wouldn't call it a total failure.
It's most likely gonna be the last 4-engined airliner.And to me, it will be the last exciting plane for a long time.
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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Agreed - The 380 and 787 are geared towards different markets. Its also costs a lot more to buy a 380 than 787.. A better comparison would be the 787 v 350
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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The A380 was never meant to compete against the 787 for orders, so what's the problem ?
And with over 300 orders( there are surely more to come) i wouldn't call it a total failure.
It's most likely gonna be the last 4-engined airliner.And to me, it will be the last exciting plane for a long time.
As far as I know, they haven't sold enough of them to break even on the costs to make them.
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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As far as I know, they haven't sold enough of them to break even on the costs to make them.
I think its still pretty young it its lifecycle and is too early to come to the conclusion as a failure. It is still in prod and from what I know will be for awhile to come. It is the best plane for the job for long haul (heavy) flights. Having flown on one - I must say hands down it is more comfortable to fly in than the 777 (which is still better for long haul than any other plane except maybe 787 and 380)
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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Both are great planes and each one serves a different segment of the business. I wonder what the profit margin is for these planes. The Airbus A380 costs $403.9 million and the 787 costs $290 million per the article provided above. I'm sure there's some heavy wheeling and dealing because these planes carry a HUGE sticker price. Yikes.

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Old 01-07-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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Those are list prices of planes. Airlines pay less than that.

You are comparing different animals. The A380 was built for slot limited airports (like LHR) or an increase of capacity that adding a second flight wouldn't be warranted or cost effective.

The 787 was designed for long thin routes (such as IAH-LOS or DEN-NRT like UA is doing) that otherwise would not be feasible.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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Too early to tell. The 747 had its best year of sale 25 years after its introduction.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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I think its still pretty young it its lifecycle and is too early to come to the conclusion as a failure. It is still in prod and from what I know will be for awhile to come. It is the best plane for the job for long haul (heavy) flights. Having flown on one - I must say hands down it is more comfortable to fly in than the 777 (which is still better for long haul than any other plane except maybe 787 and 380)
Definitely agree. I don't think it is a failure. It just hasn't generated any profits yet for Airbus.
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