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Old 03-25-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Originally Posted by Glacierx View Post
So far there are only really 3 things we know:

1. The plane departed on time.

2. Where the plane was when contact was lost. (All Right - Good Night)

3. No debris has been found.
No, we know 7 things:

1) plane departs

2) contact lost (good night)

3) plane is over Pulau Petak island (from Malaysian radar)

4) plane turned NW from Pulau Petak (Because Indonesia never detected it on radar)

5) plane turned South from Bay of Bengal (because it ended up in the Indian Ocean)

6) plane crashed in the south Indian Ocean (because of satellite data at 8:11am)

7) No debris has been found
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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The thread in the politics section is even more insane!
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cripes! have to give props out to anyone that would even look inside that asylum on this one
I used to post in the Politics thread occasionally but paranoia runs rampant there. Scary.

And yet, some of those same posters will make comments in the non-political sections and sound perfectly normal.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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Iran messing with an airliner carrying a lot of Chinese people. Probably not in Iran's best interests. If they were going to mess with the computerized systems on an airliner, they'd likely pick a different flight.

The last thing Iran needs is China finding out they did something like this.
That's the last thing any country needs.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:45 PM
 
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The Straights of Malacca are 100 miles wide, he could easily avoid hitting people AND make sure the relatives can find the plane, or find lifeboats, as the case may be. All he has to do is circle around for 7 hours in the Straights. But no, he first heads NW to the Bay of Bengal (where he could also have circled around for 7 hours) and then turns south to most desolate ocean in the world.

And still wouldnt explain why they wouldnt attempt to make radio contact with ATC if they are that level headed to start circling for time. And if the plane can circle under pilot control it is obviously stable enough to attempt a landing as well. Pilot sabotage is sounding more likely by the minute unless a trained 777 hijacker was hiding in the overhead crew rest area and somehow got in the cockpit an hr into the flight, but the odds of that is 1 in a billion.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:10 PM
 
Location: NW AR
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And still wouldnt explain why they wouldnt attempt to make radio contact with ATC if they are that level headed to start circling for time. And if the plane can circle under pilot control it is obviously stable enough to attempt a landing as well. Pilot sabotage is sounding more likely by the minute unless a trained 777 hijacker was hiding in the overhead crew rest area and somehow got in the cockpit an hr into the flight, but the odds of that is 1 in a billion.
The plane was flying west, paralleling the equator. The first and second ping would not have compromised the signal. The third and fourth would have been compromised but could have equally gone north with the same compromised signal.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: SW US
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The Straights of Malacca are 100 miles wide, he could easily avoid hitting people AND make sure the relatives can find the plane, or find lifeboats, as the case may be. All he has to do is circle around for 7 hours in the Straights. But no, he first heads NW to the Bay of Bengal (where he could also have circled around for 7 hours) and then turns south to most desolate ocean in the world.

As I said "He may have been dying himself". He may have had only seconds to make a decision as to what to do. He may not have been able to steer the plane around in a circle for 7 hours. Perhaps he made the wrong decision setting the southern course, perhaps not.

In any case, it's all speculation until/unless events are clarified. But our justice system does presume innocence until proven guilty.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:41 PM
 
Location: SW US
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Does anyone else wish that new posters would take the time to read through at least some of the previous posts? I've read all 2156 posts. It's getting very repetitious. We know very little about what happened. It's almost all speculation.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:04 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Does anyone else wish that new posters would take the time to read through at least some of the previous posts? I've read all 2156 posts. It's getting very repetitious. We know very little about what happened. It's almost all speculation.
Yes. They come right in and announce something that we discussed pages ago and it's a waste of time and space. A little bit of this is understandable but you should at least acquaint yourself with a little bit of what has come before before you bore the rest of us with the repetition. I also wish the jokers and politician wannabes would take it elsewhere because their childish behavior is a distraction and it's also disrespectful to the tone of this thread.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:23 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Ill buy #2 over anything else. There is way too much redundancy on planes for EVERY single thing to fail all at once and the pilots never once attempt to radio to ATC they are having major issues. Nothing can explain why it went off course right after saying good night and everything to track the plane is all of a sudden nonfunctional other than sabotage. If they ever find the black box we will get the real answers.
And let's not forget that it went off=course twice; once to the west, then again to the south. That deepens the mystery.

It turned precisely at the hand-over point from Malaysian to Vietnamese authorities, which gives the impression that that precise point was calculated, rather than a response to an emergency. (Though it could have been a coincidence.)

It did not fly southwest to get to the southern ocean. Rather, it flew in such a way as to avoid Indonesian airspace to the extent possible, at the expense of using more fuel than if heading more directly to the southern ocean.

Once clear of Indonesian airspace, it turned south, perhaps just before the pilot/s died after a scuffle with a hijacker.

One could make a case for those moves being deliberate. Or not. One could also make a case for a hijacking to the west/NW that was thwarted, then the plane turned south.

If there was an emergency, it still remains to be explained why they didn't land the plane in Malaysia or on Andaman.

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Old 03-25-2014, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I used to post in the Politics thread occasionally but paranoia runs rampant there. Scary.

And yet, some of those same posters will make comments in the non-political sections and sound perfectly normal.
I often wonder how many of them are....doing that thing that we are not allowed to say but can be compared to a little plastic doll with crazy colored hair on top of its head that fluffs out when you spin the doll...especially if you got one that goes on the end of a pencil.

Or...one who lives under a bridge and harasses billy goats.
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