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Old 08-01-2014, 02:12 AM
 
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Have a look to this strange take off. Do you think one day it will be possible ? Do not hesitate to share your point of view.

Have a look to the video here : Intercity Vertical-Lift Aircraft

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Old 08-01-2014, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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I think it would be pretty annoying having that land next to my office several times a day. lol

Birds would also be a problem.
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod/Green Valley AZ
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Nice idea. Keep in mind, once you load up the aircraft with fuel and cargo (people or whatever) you require lots of power to come to a safe hover. Not sure a jet aircraft would be the way to go. Perhaps some design along the lines of our military's Osprey tilt rotor would work out.
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Old 08-01-2014, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Given that, according to a recent NPR radio article, (about a guy who owns his own Harrier...) a Harrier uses half a gallon of fuel per second when hovering, I would think VTOL for even a regional jet sized plane would have too high an operating cost to be a viable business proposition.

Helicopter out to the airport on a proper helicopter, then on to where-ever in a proper airplane, I would think.

I don't think a civilian Osprey would work either. There is a lot of evidence they don't work too well as-is. They cost a lot per hour of flight as well.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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How about staying where you are and using the internet to do your business?
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Old 08-02-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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A solution looking for a problem. Civilian VTOL replaces one problem - finding space for runways in cities - and replaces it with a whole slew of new ones, mostly problems with noise (big problem in built-up areas), safety and fuel economy.
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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VTOL has been around for decades. Other than a few military applications, it's never been deemed feasible for widespread use. Mainly, because the cost of operation exceeds the amount of payload that can be carried.

The safety record in the military, compared to conventional aircraft, is not stellar either.

There's a reason why the U.S. Navy still uses catapults and arresting cables.

Unless there's a breakthrough technology, that simplifies how variable nozzles, tilt wings, and the rest of the assorted means that makes these things go, the future of VTOL will remain status quo.
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Old 08-02-2014, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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As noted, VTOLs are way too demanding to engineer, and way too expensive to build and operate to be justified for any but military operations.

I've heard that the Harrier was designed to be able to land and take off from remote country roads, in the event that airfields were taken over by enemy, or for operation behind combat lines, hang the expense.

Commercial air travel, on the other hand is based on connecting busy urban hubs, and the business requirement is to do it at the lowest possible cost... pretty much at the other end of the design spectrum from VTOLs.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:30 AM
 
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Terrafugia has been talking VTOL for electric car
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Well, keep in mind where one will come down in the event of an engine failure.
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