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Old 09-07-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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Okay, let's be fair, even if a car collides with another car (or a tree/pole) you're still much more likely to survive that than than being in a falling plane.
But you are far, far more likely to be in a car collision. Thousands of times more likely, as it happens. This is one of those areas where so-called "common sense" can be terribly wrong and lead your thinking astray.

By any any statistical measure you can think of, flying in a commercial airliner is vastly safer than driving in a car. It's safer per mile traveled. It's safer per hour traveled. It's safer over the same distance. It's safer over the same time frame.

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And just because there are more car crashes it's not fair to say that driving is not as safe. We drive cars everyday. Nearly everyone drives a car, everyday - The comparison isn't fair. So of course we are more likely to get involved in a car crash. BUT, again, an automobile crash is still much more survivable than being in a plane crash.
Again, illogical thinking deceives you. You have to look at all the facts. Read back through this thread for factual information that disproves what you are saying.

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Think of it this way; we're more likely to be bitten by a poisonous spider than be struck by lightning. People usually die when they're hit by lightning. But we rarely die with spider bites, which are much more common. Now should we say that a lightning strike is less riskier than a spider bite just because it's a much less common occurrence?
This is one of the ways you can lead yourself into erroneous thinking, by employing false analogies. What it's really like is that if you drive across country in a car vs. flying, your chances of being killed in a car crash are higher than your chances of dying in a plane crash. Or as I like to tell people, the most dangerous part of a cross country flight is the drive to the airport.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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[quote=OpenD;36402162]But you are far, far more likely to be in a car collision. Thousands of times more likely, as it happens. /QUOTE]

If you ever do risk analysis, you see there are hundreds of times the public applies this kind of thought process to events. If SOMETHING HAPPENS, then THE CONSEQUENCES ARE TERRIBLE.

Since the "SOMETHING HAPPENS" is possible, people fixate on that scenario.

This is why government is always inefficient. I had an auditor spend $500 to call me in the Indian Ocean because he felt (wrongly) that I had made a $10 error on a parking charge.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:07 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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Well, the poor MH370 and MH17 victims wouldn't agree with ya. And they've probably been in cars everyday of their lives without any major car incidents (well, right until their ill-fated flights).

because you said this I have to say this -

The number of victims on those two flights can be reached quickly if you sum up the numbers of people dying in auto crashes. I mean I keep hearing fatal auto crashes near me almost every week. And needless to say that is a very very small part of the world.
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Old 09-08-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Although It may be, what's the likelihood of you surving a plane crash vs car crash. I dont know about you but I'd MUCH rather be on the ground in the event of engine or mechanical failure rather than 30,000 feet in the air over the mid atlantic.

Statistically speaking, yes air travel is safer than traveling by car, but what's the survival rate regarding accidents for both modes of transportation?
Who cares? Plane ravel is safer than traveling by car.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Although It may be, what's the likelihood of you surving a plane crash vs car crash. I dont know about you but I'd MUCH rather be on the ground in the event of engine or mechanical failure rather than 30,000 feet in the air over the mid atlantic.

Statistically speaking, yes air travel is safer than traveling by car, but what's the survival rate regarding accidents for both modes of transportation?
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Who cares? Plane ravel is safer than traveling by car.

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Old 09-11-2014, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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People feel safer in a car because they have the sense that they are in control.
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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People feel safer in a car because they have the sense that they are in control.
Yes, of course they, but it's an illusion, not a reality. Obviously it is a powerful illusion, because it overwhelms people's ability to think straight, but it's still no more than an illusion.
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Old 09-11-2014, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, of course they, but it's an illusion, not a reality. Obviously it is a powerful illusion, because it overwhelms people's ability to think straight, but it's still no more than an illusion.
Right.

That is why I said "sense."
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Old 09-11-2014, 05:14 PM
 
Location: southern california
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People feel safer on the ground in a car
But are not
They feel safer with people they know
But are not
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