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Old 01-22-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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Picture a band of tiny munckins finding the wreckage of a bright and shiny satellite and taking it back to their cave to celebrate it's discovery... That's what you will get from Malaysia.


AirAsia jet's alarms 'screaming' before crash: investigator

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The noise of several alarms -- including one that indicated the plane was stalling -- can be heard going off in recordings from the black box in the Airbus A320-200's cockpit, the investigator told AFP, requesting anonymity


"The warning alarms, we can say, were screaming, while in the background they (the pilot and co-pilot) were busy trying to recover," the investigator said, adding the warnings were going off "for some time".
The investigator, from Indonesia's National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC), added that the pilots' voices were drowned out by the sound of the alarms.
The revelation came a day after Indonesian Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan said that the plane had climbed abnormally fast before stalling and plunging into the sea, as it flew on December 28 in stormy weather from Indonesia's Surabaya to Singapore with 162 people on board.
"In the final minutes, the plane climbed at a speed which was beyond normal," the minister told reporters.


Divers have been struggling for a week against rough seas and strong currents to reach the plane's main body, which was spotted on the seabed and is thought to contain the bulk of the remaining passengers and crew.
The two black boxes -- the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder -- were recovered last week after a lengthy search, and investigators are examining them.
Investigators have listened to the data from the cockpit voice recorder, and are also looking at a wealth of information from the flight data recorder, which monitors every major part of the plane.
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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BBC News - AirAsia flight QZ8501: Bid to raise fuselage begins
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Investigators have listened to the data from the cockpit voice recorder, and are also looking at a wealth of information from the flight data recorder, which monitors every major part of the plane.
This is what's going to paint the picture about what happened.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:02 AM
 
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BBC News - AirAsia QZ8501: Fresh bid to raise fuselage fails
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Indonesian military stops search and recovery for remains of AirAsia QZ8501 - CNN.com
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:30 AM
 
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BBC News - AirAsia crash: 'Co-pilot was flying plane'
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Old 01-29-2015, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Anyone have stats of fatal commercial accidents caused by pilot error vs mechanical failure?

Seems like pilot error has been the majority of the accidents in last decade.

Not saying it was pilot error, but I think the simplest answer is pilot error. Plane started to climb and lost lift.
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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CNN reports today say the plane climbed 5000 ft in just 30 seconds, or 10,000 ft per min climb rate, before stalling. Does the plane even have the ability to do this or does it indicate a massive updraft taking the plane up? If such a climb rate is possible, and was being done intentionally to clear the top of a storm, would it result in such a loss of air speed that the pilot would know a stall was inevitable?
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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CNN reports today say the plane climbed 5000 ft in just 30 seconds, or 10,000 ft per min climb rate, before stalling. Does the plane even have the ability to do this or does it indicate a massive updraft taking the plane up? If such a climb rate is possible, and was being done intentionally to clear the top of a storm, would it result in such a loss of air speed that the pilot would know a stall was inevitable?
Even on ferry flights with light fuel and empty payloads I've not seen anywhere near 10000 fpm . Our instrument readout doesn't even go to that value. It's an extremely rapid climb for a loaded plane. I don't even know how they'd do it without an incredibly strong updraft.
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Old 01-30-2015, 05:22 AM
 
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Pilots Disabled Critical Computers Moments Before AirAsia Crash - Bloomberg Business
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