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Old 03-25-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Just reported: One of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit before the plane crashed.
Well that's quite a twist of events ... what are the odds to two suicidal pilots purposely crashing their planes within a year of eachother? I think it's also possible the pilot have been a sleeper cell terrorist as well.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Oh man, here we go; as I suggested in an earlier post...

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...prosecutors in Marseille, have been charged with a separate criminal inquiry into the crash... Brice Robin, the Marseille prosecutor, was due to meet Thursday morning with the families of the crash victims.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Wake County, NC
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Wait, a memory card is "missing" from the black box? I thought that was all but proven to be impossible? Wheelsup, any insight on that subject?
I think it would be possible. The section that holds the memory boards/computer chips is bolted onto the box. Did you see how beat up the the CVR looked.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge
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Just reported: One of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit before the plane crashed.
Wow. Is this another SilkAir type incident? We'll eventually know what happened.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Wow. Is this another SilkAir type incident? We'll eventually know what happened.
IMO this is more like Egypt Air 990 ... I eagerly await the names of the flight crew, in particular the one who was at the controls at the time of the crash.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:15 PM
 
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I mean, what are the chances of the flight going smoothly, one pilot leaves the cockpit (don't know why) and then can't get back in, even tries to break the door in, and at that moment the pilot is having a medical emergency The odds have to be astronomical. CNN is reporting now. Talking heads saying that if a pilot leaves the cockpit, then a flight attendance is suppose to go into the cockpit until he returns, this is standard procedure. Course we don't know if a flight attendance did go in or not, but doesn't seem so. Also, they are saying that it is a very simple procedure to open the door. They are showing the switch now, there is a lever unlock, norm and lock. This looks bad to me.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:38 PM
 
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I mean, what are the chances of the flight going smoothly, one pilot leaves the cockpit (don't know why) and then can't get back in, even tries to break the door in, and at that moment the pilot is having a medical emergency The odds have to be astronomical. CNN is reporting now. Talking heads saying that if a pilot leaves the cockpit, then a flight attendance is suppose to go into the cockpit until he returns, this is standard procedure. Course we don't know if a flight attendance did go in or not, but doesn't seem so. Also, they are saying that it is a very simple procedure to open the door. They are showing the switch now, there is a lever unlock, norm and lock. This looks bad to me.
I think it's murder/suicide by the pilot.

First of all the flight attendant in the cockpit is not an international requirement, The US flights do observe it.

The copilot would not have gone out during a descent. The switch should have been left at normal, so he could get back in and not set at locked. I doubt that the pilot had a stroke or heart attack while descending for no reason while the door was securely locked and could not be entered by the copilot.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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That's why there are two pilots - When one is unavailable there's always the other. So I don't see why a plane would crash if one person were flying it. I got two assumptions:

The pilot inside the cockpit DELIBERATELY locked the other one outside just so he can crash the plane (murder-suicide)...

Or...

Whilst the other pilot went out, the one in the cockpit went unconscious due to a medical condition (maybe a heart attack). But how would he lock the door behind him and leave the key inside?

I think this is nefarious, so I'm leaning towards the first scenario here...

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Old 03-25-2015, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Wow, this got interesting. When will we get to know the pilots? That's it, I now never want to fly a non USA carrier.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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So, are they going to require each pilot to have a key on them at all times now? Even in the unlikely event of pilot medical emergency it would help.
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