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Old 05-21-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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The reason you have chaos is because there are a lot more casual travelers in the summer trying to get the lowest fares and avoid the checked baggage fees.

airlines are turning to devious ways to charge you for luggage
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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The placement of a few terrorists in planes is all it took to create a government bureaucrasy that Al Qaeda knew would lead to near chaos . The shoe bomber....really? Now we have to even remove our shoes and pass through a gauntlet of ridiculous screening, delays , missed flights overwhelming stress billions in costs much on scanners that fail and a huge turnover of checkpoint people themselves a suspicious lot! This is a genius Al Qaeda non combat plan ,which is to make life as uncomfortable ashile cells work on bigger issues and targets. We are corralled like cattle and the enemy is hysterical as to how it has lead to a travel culture from hell. War is waged in varying degrees often creating unsettling fear a hallmark dating back to the Assyrians in 722 BC the perhaps first terrorists ( the same DNA as ISIS...hmmm).

IMO al qaeda is not that smart nor capable of future planning like this. They live day to day because they do not love life and love death instead.

IMO people in the US Govt et al and/or the people in charge of the US Govt (lobbyists and billionaires) saw an opportunity to create a huge bureaucracy and played on the US population's fears of [people] with beards.

The only way to change this system would be to boycott it. If everyone refused to fly for say one month - watch how fast the system would change. No way in hell airlines and all associated industries would accept one month of lost revenue, and in some cases I think one month of lost revenue would actually force some into bankruptcy.
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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That's why we're driving 12 hours to NM for our vacation next week. Avoiding all the hassles of airplane travel makes the long road trip worthwhile. Ah, the joys of TSA
We did the same thing last month, though more like 20+ hours each way. No regrets! Airports and airline travel has become SO unpleasant. We're planning a couple trips this summer, and will be driving.
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Old 05-22-2016, 07:28 AM
 
Location: tampa bay
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I travel from Tampa(TIA) to NYC(LAG/JFK) at least 5 times a year with JetBlue...I am a 50 female natural born citizen who has never traveled over seas ...on some occasions I have been pre screened( not sure how) and instructed to take shorter quicker line, can leave shoes on and don't have to remove lap top from carry on ...which usually results in me having to still remove my shoes and I apparently set off machine on multiple parts of my anatomy...have been asked after setting off "crotch detector" to go to a small room with two TSA female officers where I had to have them do a full body pat down and unzip my pants so they could feel alongside my waist...the kicker was being asked if I had any body piercings in my private area!!! Now I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover but I am the most benign normal looking middle aged lady...the time that gets wasted on me when real terrorists are out there is kinda scary...latest incident had me and another man in his 60's getting pulled off the line to have full body pat downs in front of everyone...of course not only were my hands swabbed and test the TIA officer then swabbed the latex gloves she had been wearing while searching me...I guess we can now safely assume no middle-aged Americans will be able to blow up planes anytime soon...
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The point of Terrorism is to frighten people into unclear thinking. That has certainly worked for the Muslim Terrorists as illustrated by our response to the WTC bombing. I am disgusted that our response was to attack Iraq instead of the Saudi Arabia even if most of the terrorists were Saudi.

Then we have the creation of the TSA. That is a expensive ineffective bad joke on the passengers and the airlines. "Fear is the Mind Killer..." has never been so clearly illustrated.
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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I agree terrorists always have the upper hand , they spend very little money and spend very little energy and effort and they make countries like us spend billions and turn us into a paranoid police state.my hats off to them.plus the amount of people that die from foreign terrorists is negligible far more people die form chocking every year, or falling down stairs.
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Old 05-24-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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Stairs are one of the oldest terrorist inventions. We had them beat with the bungalow, but folks forget and go live in a two story house.
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Old 05-27-2016, 06:25 PM
 
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The easiest terrorist target now is the terminal before the security checkpoint. Hundreds, if not thousands of people lined up in some of the bigger airports.

Airlines could help fix this by relaxing checked luggage fees.
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:10 AM
 
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Shaking down? I don't understand...
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Old 05-28-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Star Idaho
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Where do people come up with all these retarded conspiracy theories?
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