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I don't think there has even been a variant of an aircraft so dependent on one customer.
Sales of the 747 had the following distribution
46.1% Asia (Singapore, Australia & NZ)
25.4% Europe
20.4% USA
4.0% Middle East (Israel)
1.9% Africa
1.4% Canada
0.8% Latin America
100%
The USA numbers are artificially high because of the military, presidential, freight, and special uses of the aircraft as spy planes. Also most of the passenger versions were ordered in the 1960's as two engine planes couldn't fly to Europe until 1985.
Sales of the A380 were zero in USA, Africa, Canada, and Latin America which was not particularly shocking. But they never got beyond the three main airlines in Europe, and was a bust in Japan and China where Airbus expected it to be a big hit.
20 : QANTAS AIRWAYS (final 8 will probably never be delivered)
10 : KOREAN AIR
6 : MALAYSIA AIRLINES
6 : THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL
6 : ASIANA AIRLINES
5 : CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES COMPANY
3 : All Nippon Airlines
The delivery rate of the B747 through the 1990s somewhat justified Airbus's belief that they could deliver 45 A380s per year.
1990 70
1991 64
1992 61
1993 56
1994 40
1995 25
1996 26
1997 39
1998 53
1999 47
Keep in mind that the final orders for B747 from USA airlines were in the fall of 1985
10/22/85 16 Northwest Airlines (USA)
11/07/85 44 United Airlines (USA)
In 1985 the FAA had just given permission to fly TransAtlantic with dual engine jets. So these last 60 orders were for TransPacific routes. United had just bought all of PanAms TransPacific routes. After 1985 there was never another order for four engine jets from a USA airline.
ANA has 3 on order, not quite the big investment that the article makes out. And they are probably taking up slots that were earmarked for the Skymark order.
ANA has 3 on order, not quite the big investment that the article makes out. And they are probably taking up slots that were earmarked for the Skymark order.
They are most certainly the 3 that were earmarked for Skymark. Airbus took ANA's side in the fight with JAL for Skymark's route. ANA agreed to take Skymark's order in exchange for the support.
This offer that Airbus is extending to China for an industrial partnership if Chinese airlines place orders for the A380 might work. The Chinese are clearly hungry for aerospace technology, and may consider being saddled with some fuel hungry behemoths a fair trade for the infrastructure.
I believe that China Southern Airlines (the only Chinese Airline to fly the A380) is the only airline in the world to fly them on a domestic route.
From & To Beijing: Chengdu and Guangzhou
From & To Guangzhou: Los Angeles and Sydney
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Originally Posted by Milky Way Resident
Never even got to ride on one till now. How does it fare next to the 747?
Either LAX or JFK have the most options for an A380 flight A380 Flights and Airlines to Los Angeles
Dubai to Los Angeles:Emirates 16 h 20 min
Frankfurt to Los Angeles:Lufthansa 11 h 50 min
Paris to Los Angeles:Air France 11 h 35 min
Seoul to Los Angeles:Asiana Airlines 11 h 10 min
Seoul to Los Angeles:Korean Air 11 h 00 min
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London to Los Angeles:British Airways 11 h 30 min
Guangzhou to Los Angeles:China Southern Airlines 12 h 40 min
Melbourne to Los Angeles:Qantas 14 h 20 min
Sydney to Los Angeles:Qantas 13 h 45 min
A380 Flights and Airlines to New York
Dubai to New York:Emirates 14 h 00 min
Frankfurt to New York:Singapore Airlines 8 h 55 min
Paris to New York:Air France 8 h 45 min
Seoul to New York:Asiana Airlines 14 h 00 min
Seoul to New York:Korean Air 14 h 00 min
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Abu Dhabi to New York:Etihad Airways 14 h 50 min
Milan to New York:Emirates 9 h 00 min
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Never even got to ride on one till now. How does it fare next to the 747?
The flight experience if you're in economy on the maindeck, it's slightly better than the 744 as the cabin pressure is slightly lower but the cattle class is just that, it's a sea of people. The 748 maintains similar cabin pressure to the 744 but some of the improvements made make it better than the 744 but not quite up there with the 388.
If you snag something on the upper deck it's wholly more a better flight experience as you have a smaller cabin and the benefits of that.
If you snag something on the upper deck it's wholly more a better flight experience as you have a smaller cabin and the benefits of that.
Emirates and Etihad Airways are known for making the upper deck a strictly business and first class seating section.
Other airlines have economy and "premium economy" on the upper deck, but usually in limited quantity. Asiana and British Airways have the most economy seats (106 and 104) on the upper deck. BA also has 55 premium economy seats on upper deck.
Economy:2-4-2
Premium Economy:2-3-2
Asiana Airlines 106:2-4-2
British Airways 104:2-4-2 & 55:2-3-2
China Southern Airlines 76: 2-4-2
Malaysia Airlines 70: 2-4-2
Thai Airways International 58:2-4-2
Air France 46:2-4-2 & 38:2-3-2
Qantas 30:2-4-2 & 35:2-3-2
Lufthansa 35: 2-4-2
Only some of the jets
Singapore Airlines 88:2-4-2
Emirates 120:2-4-2
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