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I don't think I've ever heard it on the ground frequency.
I was referring to the generic ground frequency being those frequencies used while on the ground, such as CTAF, Clearance, Tower etc. Sorry for the confusion.
I was referring to the generic ground frequency being those frequencies used while on the ground, such as CTAF, Clearance, Tower etc. Sorry for the confusion.
I have been to a couple airports (SDL and FFZ) where the tower and ground frequencies are simulcast because of manning, usually late at night right before the tower would close, one controller running tower and ground. I don't know how common that is now.
I have been to a couple airports (SDL and FFZ) where the tower and ground frequencies are simulcast because of manning, usually late at night right before the tower would close, one controller running tower and ground. I don't know how common that is now.
Yes it happens at smaller towered airports, mainly Class Deltas, sometimes Charlies too.
I've been to a bunch of C and D (Off-Peak) airports where there is one controller "working" , S/He is running all 3 frequencies Clearance, Ground, Tower.
On landing often S/He will say stay with "me" on the tower frequency, as I move off the runway and start to taxi.
I've been to a bunch of C and D (Off-Peak) airports where there is one controller "working" , S/He is running all 3 frequencies Clearance, Ground, Tower.
On landing often S/He will say stay with "me" on the tower frequency, as I move off the runway and start to taxi.
My old home base, KFTG, a Class D, has a contracted Tower, and after 21:00 goes to CTAF.
Fuel saving is serious business in the airline industry. From using one prop, or engine for ground movement, to flight attendants urging passengers to lower the shades at an airport with hot temps, every little bit counts. I also appreciate this as it tends to keep fares lower, or atleast that is the theory. However, Spirit Airlines loading the plane in the front and back to get maximum efficiency is going too far, IMO. When you cramp passengers together for efficiency, perhaps the line has been crossed.
I have been to a couple airports (SDL and FFZ) where the tower and ground frequencies are simulcast because of manning, usually late at night right before the tower would close, one controller running tower and ground. I don't know how common that is now.
Yes I've been to airports where that was done. Good point. In that case a pilot may have heard "position and hold" on the ground frequency, back when that was still in use by ATC.
I have been to a couple airports (SDL and FFZ) where the tower and ground frequencies are simulcast because of manning, usually late at night right before the tower would close, one controller running tower and ground. I don't know how common that is now.
I think the FAA has two person tower staffing nationwide, since the DCA issue of a few years ago when the only one tower controller working overnight when the airport was closed, and S/He did not reply to a local traffic call or something.
But saying that the "Second" Controller that is now in the towers may not be on the radio, and may be doing paperwork in the tower, or just making sure the other controller does not fall asleep, or die ...
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