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Old 03-07-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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These are the words of a very old woman, and those (holocaust) experiences tend to stick with people! Empathy please. She was probably very shaken. It is an ugly, demeaning, trivializing expression. And there are NO excuses for its use.

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Old 03-07-2018, 04:02 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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Exclamation Senator Chuck Schumer invited the TSA to invade New York

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(This is the one I use) Just stay completely the hell away from airports and airplanes. then TSA can't grab you, EVER! It works for me.
Google "VIPR".

The TSA's "VIPR teams" conduct ~10K unannounced checkpoints and other search operations each year, operating in areas far outside of their traditional airport security checkpoints, for example, they ran checkpoints in the LA Metro Center on March 6, 2018 and randomly run checkpoints at Amtrak stations on interstate highways.

After being invited in by Senator Chuck Schumer (more proof that civil servants are a degenerate form of vampire), TSA has run several New York City operations in 2018, I do not believe any of these millimeter wave technology tests were voluntary for passengers.
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Old 03-07-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: the Gorge
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These are the words of a very old woman, and those (holocaust) experiences tend to stick with people! Empathy please. She was probably very shaken. It is an ugly, demeaning, trivializing expression. And there are NO excuses for its use.
anyone her age should be given some slack - and a survivor of the Holocaust? all the slack there is.

and I don't believe the TSA makes us any safer.
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Old 03-07-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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no one should be raping anyone, TSA or ANYONE. Elderly Holocaust Survivor to Boot!!!

But there are so many psychos which will find fault with her, and not the rapist, for her "reubttal" it's just sad.


World has so many sociopaths what can you do
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Old 03-07-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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I now fly out of Kalispell, Montana instead of a larger Canadian city. It's a smaller terminal; heck the same guy that checked my ticket moved over to the screener, and then we both moved over.....anyway, as you get older this invasion process is ONE MORE F...ING move by the outside world into your space.

I feel your pain. You're welcome to ride in my van to Kalispell any time.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:08 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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A TSA body search is demeaning for anyone. Didn't need to haul out the holocaust survivor card to make the point.
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Although I hate TSA with a passion, I don't agree with her comment that she should somehow be "exempt" from this treatment while everyone else is required to go through it.


Here was her comment:


"there has to be some way that at age 84 I can get some clearance by the POWERS of Government from this procedure."


Nobody can get clearance. TSA searches young children as well as elderly adults, people with disabilities, men, women people of all races, religions, sexual orientation and both genders.
I believe there's nothing wrong in employing brains in terror screening. This idea that "anyone is likely to be a terrorist" must go. Behavioral or psychological profiling should be the norm.

We tie ourselves into knots in an effort to be "fair" to all.

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Old 03-07-2018, 09:12 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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As Jeff Foxworthy says:

If an 80-year-old woman who is confined to a wheelchair or a three-year-old girl can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
Just perfect.
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I personally advocate going back to security being approximately the way it was before 9/11. At that time, it was run by the airlines and the cost was absorbed by them through ticket prices. What if one airplane is blown out of the sky by a bomb and 200 people are killed? Its the way the ball bounces. Its just one of the risks of living. At the cost of $7.5 billion a year we could afford to pay compensation to each of the families of those killed at the rate of $7.5 billion divided by 200 people or about $37.5 million per family.

There are many risks in life. Almost 40,000 people die in car accidents every year. I don't hear any cry to do something about that.
Just brilliant. Excellent
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anyone her age should be given some slack - and a survivor of the Holocaust? all the slack there is.

and I don't believe the TSA makes us any safer.
It's security theater. See Should People Be More Questioning of Ridiculous Restrictions and Protest Those More? and Security Theater v. Profiling - Are Blocked Streets Warranted?.

For more TSA fun, see Disabled St. Jude patient sues airport and TSA.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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They are awful people. Our last trip MrsM said "why did I even bother going to my Gyno this week" All that did was bring on more abuse

Mrs Kor,not because of the Holocaust, was only singled out because she was old and frail. They inspected someone, not PROFILING, God forbid!
I wouldn’t go there exactly - but for the most part these people are friendly but just aloof and lazy at their jobs. This is security we are taking about here - why should I get extra screen and be felt up where someone who would have more of a risky profile doesn’t?

In my experience the worst TSA workers are in DEN and EWR and the best are in LAX. Other than the crotch feel up in DFW, the guys who scanned my ID were a pretty funny and charming group.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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I wouldn’t go there exactly - but for the most part these people are friendly but just aloof and lazy at their jobs. This is security we are taking about here - why should I get extra screen and be felt up where someone who would have more of a risky profile doesn’t?

In my experience the worst TSA workers are in DEN and EWR and the best are in LAX. Other than the crotch feel up in DFW, the guys who scanned my ID were a pretty funny and charming group.
CVG is not one of the not so best
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:53 AM
 
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Just give everyone in line a comfort puppy!
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