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Old 08-14-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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One day after the airplane went missing, the mobile phones of many passengers were ringing. I mean you could still dial those numbers. In case of ocean crash, those phone should have stopped working.
Do you understand how phones work? I could shut my phone off. I could smash it to pieces with a sledgehammer. You can still call me and hear it ringing.

The phone has nothing to do with the service.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:14 AM
 
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In case the airplane made a U-turn, passengers and other staff would have immediately known.

Not necessarily. Especially if many of them were asleep. Besides, most people have no idea as to flight paths and patterns and would've thought nothing of it. And in the dead of night and over the blackness of the ocean, there would have been little or no sense of direction anyway if it was a smooth and gradual turn and no visible scenery to reference your motion to. Sort of the opposite of vector whiteout but in effect, the same principle. Under those conditions, a U-turn could have gone entirely unnoticed by the passengers.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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One day after the airplane went missing, the mobile phones of many passengers were ringing. I mean you could still dial those numbers. In case of ocean crash, those phone should have stopped working.
No the numbers don't stop working, only the phones. This is totally normal. When you dial and hear ringing it's simply the network sending out a signal.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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Do you understand how phones work? I could shut my phone off. I could smash it to pieces with a sledgehammer. You can still call me and hear it ringing.

The phone has nothing to do with the service.

But the phones were ringing for 1-2 days and then it stopped. So is there a period that even if phones are smashed, for 48 hours, phone ringing can be heard !!!
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Not necessarily. Especially if many of them were asleep. Besides, most people have no idea as to flight paths and patterns and would've thought nothing of it. And in the dead of night and over the blackness of the ocean, there would have been little or no sense of direction anyway if it was a smooth and gradual turn and no visible scenery to reference your motion to. Sort of the opposite of vector whiteout but in effect, the same principle. Under those conditions, a U-turn could have gone entirely unnoticed by the passengers.



Unnoticed by all the passengers and staff !!! It is a very busy Air Route plus so many passengers have Map service open on the screen behind seats. I always look outside windows and at night, with lights, it is actually better view unless stuck in any cloud. You have a view flight tracker and any U-turn is detected within minutes.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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No the numbers don't stop working, only the phones. This is totally normal. When you dial and hear ringing it's simply the network sending out a signal.

For how many days the network will send signals once the phones are destroyed ??
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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For how many days the network will send signals once the phones are destroyed ??
I think until the service is disconnected via the providers service plan. The victims family will eventually go to the provider and disconnect service. But of course, these numbers also get recycled, so once a number is no longer in use it gets rotated to another user and may ring again, this time with some dude they don't even know answering.

This explains more:
https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world...ked/index.html

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Unnoticed by all the passengers and staff !!! It is a very busy Air Route plus so many passengers have Map service open on the screen behind seats. I always look outside windows and at night, with lights, it is actually better view unless stuck in any cloud. You have a view flight tracker and any U-turn is detected within minutes.
This flight was a red-eye. Many of the passengers were likely asleep. But one of the theories is that someone in the cockpit turned off the oxygen and quickly dispatched the passengers. There masks would drop down, some would put it on, those that didn't would go into a comma in a couple minutes. The passenger oxygen supply would only last 20 minutes, cockpit would have extended oxygen supply. None of that matters however - communications were also disabled, by someone in the cockpit. Sattelite phones would be disabled, cell phone would not work because they were out of range to be functional. Cockpit doors were reinforced design as a result of 911. Whoever was in that cockpit controlled everything.

Although, there is of course the obligatory UFO theory going on currently in the Unexplained Mysteries and Paranormal forum.

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Old 08-17-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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If the Airplane had crashed anywhere near Malaysia, Vietnam, China, Cambodia, South China Sea, its debris would have been found. It is is heavily populated region and also Sea is littered with boats. Crashed in sea or Ground, it would have been found.



One strange thing is that if the flight allegedly turned around, they should have known about it immediately and scrambld Fighter jets or something like that. After how many hours they think that the flight turned back? Or is that only an approximation ?
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:31 PM
 
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If the Airplane had crashed anywhere near Malaysia, Vietnam, China, Cambodia, South China Sea, its debris would have been found. It is is heavily populated region and also Sea is littered with boats. Crashed in sea or Ground, it would have been found.



One strange thing is that if the flight allegedly turned around, they should have known about it immediately and scrambld Fighter jets or something like that. After how many hours they think that the flight turned back? Or is that only an approximation ?
You have to be in a part of the world where a potential enemy can put fighters over your territory for air forces to keep a high enough alert level to pull that intercept off.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:49 PM
 
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If the Airplane had crashed anywhere near Malaysia, Vietnam, China, Cambodia, South China Sea, its debris would have been found. It is is heavily populated region and also Sea is littered with boats. Crashed in sea or Ground, it would have been found.



One strange thing is that if the flight allegedly turned around, they should have known about it immediately and scrambld Fighter jets or something like that. After how many hours they think that the flight turned back? Or is that only an approximation ?
First question - Of course we know that it did not crash near these countries. It was traced on a course into the remote South Indian Ocean, a thousand or so miles away. You know this right? Presumably it crashed when it ran out of fuel. Remains of the plane however, carried by the indian ocean currents, did wash up in Africa years later.

Second question - No they would not have known about it immediatly nor would they have scrambled fighter jets. The pilot turned off the transponder and then turned around at the point where he was shifting civilian flight control monitoring from stations in Malaysia to Vietnam. Malaysia stopped monitoring or caring since they assumed Vietnam air space was monitoring, Vietnam didnt start monitoring or caring since they assumed they were still in Malaysia air space. The pilot was clever in this regard, straddling country airspace boundries (taking one list dip around his hometown incidently) until he hit the indian ocean, then pointed the craft south, put it on autopilot, until it eventually ran out of fuel hours later.
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