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What is happening now in my state is owners just dont get medicals and perform their own mx and dont get annuals and fly anyways. Thats the face of GA now no one gives an f.
I suppose if you live in some megaopolis with convoluted air space and draconian enforcement things would be more difficult .....
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What is happening now in my state is owners just dont get medicals and perform their own mx and dont get annuals and fly anyways. Thats the face of GA now no one gives an f.
I suppose if you live in some megaopolis with convoluted air space and draconian enforcement things would be more difficult .....
I've suspected that happens frequently for quite some time now. I'm curious if anyone knows someone who's been busted and how serious the penalties are?
I did hear an anecdote from a local I have no reason to doubt about a local flyer who had a rather distinctive aircraft buzzing a few local beaches a few years ago, when they tracked him down they found he had no license, laughed and said c'mon, go get one and that was it.
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What about insurance do they require medicals seems like they sure love those when it comes to life insurance.
Insurance medical standards may well vary widely from FAA medical standards and we see the infomercials all the time offering no medical life insurance, even for oldies.
The scary thing about FAA medicals is many conditions that can cause you to blow a medical may be reversible by waiver but some waivers may cost $1,000s to acquire with visits to specialists, etc..
I've suspected that happens frequently for quite some time now. I'm curious if anyone knows someone who's been busted and how serious the penalties are?
I did hear an anecdote from a local I have no reason to doubt about a local flyer who had a rather distinctive aircraft buzzing a few local beaches a few years ago, when they tracked him down they found he had no license, laughed and said c'mon, go get one and that was it.
I have never heard of any one being busted ever, the only time the NTSB gets involved is if you crash AND you are carrying non pilot passengers, especially for hire. If you are flying your Cessna by yourself or with another pilot friend no one cares. I have not heard of a single enforcement action, the pilot could argue there is no victim (especially if they are by themselves flying over sparsely populated areas which is probably why there is not enforcement action).
When you start engaging in part 135 or commercial operations then its a whole new ball game, or flying into class B and C air space etc.
What about insurance do they require medicals seems like they sure love those when it comes to life insurance.
No one I know carries insurance either air craft or personal as insurers wont insure you or if they will its sky high expensive. I just make sure that we have enough investments and tangible assets that she will be ok and then she wont have to fight with an insurance company.
Insurance medical standards may well vary widely from FAA medical standards and we see the infomercials all the time offering no medical life insurance, even for oldies.
The scary thing about FAA medicals is many conditions that can cause you to blow a medical may be reversible by waiver but some waivers may cost $1,000s to acquire with visits to specialists, etc..
Yep, its all about the money, everyone has their hands out in aviation and their bill rates are NOT cheap. This is partly why GA is dying because everyone wants 80-100 hr to perform simple tasks. The FAA makes it a nightmare to get your A&P, all the schools and training programs want big bucks. I was lucky and found a mentor IA that let me do owner mx and slowly get my time in and learned a ton of stuff and I was able to slowly collect up my tools from the snap on truck quite litterally one tool at a time. I still need a nice air compressor and a few other things but I can do all my mx myself.
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Yep, its all about the money, everyone has their hands out in aviation and their bill rates are NOT cheap. This is partly why GA is dying because everyone wants 80-100 hr to perform simple tasks.
Yeah, a few years ago I got a little seat time with an Ercoupe owner. He'd told his AME he had sleep apnea and it cost him something like $5-6K to go to a sleep lab and get a waiver. Definitely piques my interest in LSA.
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The FAA makes it a nightmare to get your A&P, all the schools and training programs want big bucks. I was lucky and found a mentor IA that let me do owner mx and slowly get my time in and learned a ton of stuff and I was able to slowly collect up my tools from the snap on truck quite litterally one tool at a time. I still need a nice air compressor and a few other things but I can do all my mx myself.
I haven't flipped thru the FARs in many years, Is there an actual requirement for an A & P to attend an accredited school or can someone who's been doing it for years take the tests (I'm guessing there's a written and a practical side?)?
Yeah, a few years ago I got a little seat time with an Ercoupe owner. He'd told his AME he had sleep apnea and it cost him something like $5-6K to go to a sleep lab and get a waiver. Definitely piques my interest in LSA.
I haven't flipped thru the FARs in many years, Is there an actual requirement for an A & P to attend an accredited school or can someone who's been doing it for years take the tests (I'm guessing there's a written and a practical side?)?
You can just do the work and take the tests. The issue is the practical exam at the very end will be testing you on everything from jet turbines to pressurized systems even if the only things you have worked on is small single engine planes. That is where I am hung up now, I am having to read through 1000's of pages of material to test for stuff I dont really need. Dont get me wrong its interesting and may be useful in the future but due to some life circumstances I dont really have time for it but if I dont do it my written tests will start expiring .... and as mentioned before each writtien (3 total) are 165 a piece and the practical is 700 so if you let anything lapse or fail anything its extremely costly .... for no reason other than because the FAA does not certify enough DME's to aminister exams so there is a huge supply constraint, artificially made by the FAA.
Everywhere you turn in GA it is artificailly made costly by the FAA based on how many people they certify. I think the prices should be fixed and administered by the FAA themselves (like how the DMV works). People would loose their S*it if it cost 10 grand to get your drivers license and you had to hire special driver instructors etc.
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You can just do the work and take the tests. The issue is the practical exam at the very end will be testing you on everything from jet turbines to pressurized systems even if the only things you have worked on is small single engine planes. That is where I am hung up now, I am having to read through 1000's of pages of material to test for stuff I dont really need. Dont get me wrong its interesting and may be useful in the future but due to some life circumstances I dont really have time for it but if I dont do it my written tests will start expiring .... and as mentioned before each writtien (3 total) are 165 a piece and the practical is 700 so if you let anything lapse or fail anything its extremely costly .... for no reason other than because the FAA does not certify enough DME's to aminister exams so there is a huge supply constraint, artificially made by the FAA.
Everywhere you turn in GA it is artificailly made costly by the FAA based on how many people they certify. I think the prices should be fixed and administered by the FAA themselves (like how the DMV works). People would loose their S*it if it cost 10 grand to get your drivers license and you had to hire special driver instructors etc.
Wow, am I out of touch. The only FAA written test I ever took was for a PPL and I just walked into the Teterboro office, sat down and took it. Cost: $00.00. The checkride was a long time ago and the memory fades but if I paid anything it was peanuts.
I had hope when EAA/AOPA combined to petition to allow private pilots to use a DL in lieu of a 3rd class as LSA allows but they gave up awfully quickly IMO. I guess I'm in FantasyLand thinking it would make more sense for the FAA to make it easier for recreational pilots to fly more frequently and gain proficiency rather than seemingly erecting hurdles at every opportunity.
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Definitely piques my interest in LSA.
The only FAA written test I ever took was for a PPL and I just walked into the Teterboro office, sat down and took it. Cost: $00.00. The checkride was a long time ago and the memory fades but if I paid anything it was peanuts.
